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#15 by trav1856 on 20 May, 2011 18:04
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So would putting on one of those full car prothane kits be worth while as well?
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#16 by rabbitman on 20 May, 2011 18:44
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So would putting on one of those full car prothane kits be worth while as well?
Yup, very worth it. My write up on it, http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=25324.0
When I fix my rabbits rusty floor I plan to do lots of seam welding to beef things up as much as possible. -
#17 by trav1856 on 21 May, 2011 04:29
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So if I gather correctly the motor and tranny mounts you should stay away from, but the suspension mounts are good to go?
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#18 by 8v-of-fury on 21 May, 2011 07:17
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On the mk1 platform you can get away with Poly in the side mounts, if you leave the front and back rubber. Seeing as how the mk2 doesn't have side mounts.. No luck lol
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#19 by R.O.R-2.0 on 21 May, 2011 09:31
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I'd just like to point out that comparing generations of the SAME car is like comparing an Apple seed, to an Apple. The next step in the making is OBVIOUSLY going to be better.. I bet you won't guess what out handles the mk2
WAIT THE MK3! oh man I didn't see that coming. Yes I have done it, it may be heavier but it handled way better. 98 430000km jetta against a 90 200000km jetta with a fresh suspension.. the 98 had it every-time. 
But seriously.. I still like my 84
not entirely true.
you'll find that with the exact same suspension set up on similarly powered vehicles that the mk2 will out handle a mk3.
with the suspension geometry being virtually identical, the mk3 only differs to the width of the rear trailing beam and the width of the control arms.
the mk2 handles better in my world. the lightness makes my car more agile.. my GTI will out handle my buddies mk3 jetta any day.. BAD.
ive driven both cars.. the mk2 is STILL my favorite platform. i like mk3 cars, but they just dont have what it takes.. -
#20 by trav1856 on 21 May, 2011 13:32
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On the mk1 platform you can get away with Poly in the side mounts, if you leave the front and back rubber. Seeing as how the mk2 doesn't have side mounts.. No luck lol
By side-mounts. You mean the Car's sides? or the Engine's sides? -
#21 by R.O.R-2.0 on 21 May, 2011 14:00
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On the mk1 platform you can get away with Poly in the side mounts, if you leave the front and back rubber. Seeing as how the mk2 doesn't have side mounts.. No luck lol
By side-mounts. You mean the Car's sides? or the Engine's sides?
meaning the engine mounts on the left and right side. one on the end of the trans, and one on the front of the engine..
the mk2 has 2 rear mounts, and one front mount.
mk1 has 1 front mount, 2 side mounts, and 1 rear mount.. -
#22 by 8v-of-fury on 23 May, 2011 13:38
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On the mk1 platform you can get away with Poly in the side mounts, if you leave the front and back rubber. Seeing as how the mk2 doesn't have side mounts.. No luck lol
By side-mounts. You mean the Car's sides? or the Engine's sides?
Are they not one in the same? lol Like timing belt side and transmission side of the mk1 engine configuration. -
#23 by Vangruver on 23 May, 2011 14:12
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So would putting on one of those full car prothane kits be worth while as well?
for the front's they are okay, but for the rear they've been known to be poor performing.
My friends get the best street set up with high Density front control arm bushings, which are tougher higher durometer rubber bushings that still provide ample feedback. And front wheel drive Mk2 Audi TT rear control arm bushings.
The Audi bushings are solid rubber, unlike the A2/A3 chassis rear LCA bushings that have air gaps for pivot movements. The combination of those two bushings will provide you a very streetable car with less squeaks and creeks that you'd find in a polyurethane equipped car.
These following links are good reads
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?2118568-Why-(Rear)-Poly-Bushings-Are-Bad&highlight=poly+bushings+bad
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4392529-Poly-control-arm-bushings...-good-or-bad&highlight=poly+bushings+bad
To reduce the creeks and squeaks in poly bushings, you'd want to ensure that the sleeve to bushing area is properly lubed otherwise it's annoying as all hell to be in.
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#24 by rabbitman on 06 Jun, 2011 19:05
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Yup, prothanes do squeak a bit.
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#25 by theman53 on 06 Jun, 2011 19:09
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Never heard mine squeak yet. Only been about 10,000 miles though since they were installed.
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#26 by maxfax on 07 Jun, 2011 01:19
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Yup, prothanes do squeak a bit.
Make them greaseable and use synthetic grease......