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May 09, 2011, 10:33:18 pm

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« on: May 09, 2011, 10:33:18 pm »
Okay im getting everything on my head new tomorrow. Im using a head off a 1.6 NA my engine is 1.6 TD

Doing last checks tonight to make sure i have everything i need i found out the prechambers off my 1.6 TD head is bigger than my 1.6 NA head PC
Will this head still work ive already spent countless hours porting and polishing this head  :-[

I hope this thing will work for me

the pictures...
The one on the left is TD the one on the Right is NA

same Left TD Right NA

Head on left is TD on right is NA


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Reply #1May 09, 2011, 10:52:04 pm

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Re: Different Prechambers PIC
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2011, 10:52:04 pm »
I don't think so. I thought the ones with the ding in them are TD??? At any rate one is 30mm across and the other is 32mm. Unless you have an inconel stretcher I would say it won't work as planned.

Reply #2May 09, 2011, 11:46:45 pm

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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2011, 11:46:45 pm »
The ones with the ding in them are smaller i got that head off of a 1.6 NA in the junkyard. The Bigger is the head that came off my car. It was cracked
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Reply #3May 10, 2011, 03:54:14 am

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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2011, 03:54:14 am »
Yep, I've only seen the little dent on TD engines.
 Letter at the end of the head part number?
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Reply #4May 10, 2011, 11:42:17 am

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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2011, 11:42:17 am »
Yep, I've only seen the little dent on TD engines.
 Letter at the end of the head part number?

I dont know what they mean. i wish their was more info on the internet about cyl. heads

TD: 068 103 373 E

NA: 068 103 373 M
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Reply #5May 10, 2011, 12:49:10 pm

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Re: Different Prechambers PIC
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2011, 12:49:10 pm »
The ones with the ding in them are smaller i got that head off of a 1.6 NA in the junkyard. The Bigger is the head that came off my car. It was cracked

the 1.5D and 1.6TD share the same diameter cups. the n/a got the bigger cups..
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Reply #6May 10, 2011, 01:09:12 pm

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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2011, 01:09:12 pm »
maybe that car i bought with the TD engine had a NA head on it. Or maybe the Head i got from the junkyard was a TD head on a NA engine.

IDK... It blows my mind. I believe you all but its backwards from what im experiencing.
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Reply #7May 11, 2011, 12:24:03 am

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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2011, 12:24:03 am »
Anyone have any comments on it? I sent it to the machine shop today they said it really wouldnt make a difference maybe the CR just a little.
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Reply #8May 11, 2011, 08:29:12 am

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Re: Different Prechambers PIC
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2011, 08:29:12 am »
It will make a big difference. The smaller cups will fall out of the head!!!! They are only 30mm the bigger ones are 32mm. See if Myke W still has some junk heads to sell the PC out of???

Reply #9May 11, 2011, 09:19:20 am

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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2011, 09:19:20 am »
they sell prechambers new still. thread was up top about 2 weeks ago.
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Reply #10May 11, 2011, 09:51:41 am

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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2011, 09:51:41 am »
Sorry to thread jack, but nathan b I have sent you 2 pm's with no response. /jack

Reply #11May 11, 2011, 10:28:34 am

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Re: Different Prechambers PIC
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2011, 10:28:34 am »
It will make a big difference. The smaller cups will fall out of the head!!!! They are only 30mm the bigger ones are 32mm. See if Myke W still has some junk heads to sell the PC out of???

How will i put bigger PC in the head i got? or will i have to get a new head in all.... Damnit
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Reply #12May 11, 2011, 11:49:30 am

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Re: Different Prechambers PIC
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2011, 11:49:30 am »
It will make a big difference. The smaller cups will fall out of the head!!!! They are only 30mm the bigger ones are 32mm. See if Myke W still has some junk heads to sell the PC out of???

How will i put bigger PC in the head i got? or will i have to get a new head in all.... Damnit

only way is to make the PC bores bigger..

i dont see a 32mm PC fitting in a 30mm hole..
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Reply #13May 11, 2011, 07:14:34 pm

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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2011, 07:14:34 pm »
Soo just to be on the safe side ill probably just buy a reman head for the TD.

Great. All my hard work of porting and polishing the intake ports is gone out the window....
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Reply #14May 11, 2011, 08:28:40 pm

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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2011, 08:28:40 pm »
Alright just priced a rebuild head: $600  :o

I dont have the funds now to buy a $600 rebuilt head so does ANYONE know if my head with the smaller Precups will work with my 1.6 TD?

I was only thinking i would spend around half of that with the machine shop.
Im in a desperate situation now lol  I need more peoples input to judge what im going to end up doing
MY CARs-BLACK 99.5 Jetta TDI 5 speed 93,000- DC Stage 2 Clutch Kit 14Lb FW, Afe air intake box, 2.5" DP, 11mm IP, 2.5" stright piped, boost gauge, PP764, RC5 (WOW), 3-Bar, McNally EGT/Boost, 17/22, Race Pipe, EGR Cooler Delete, PD lift pump, R32 MAF housing,FMIC

1983 VW Jetta 1.6 turbo fuel mods