audi 5000 diesel and a k26?

[rabbid79]

Why remove them. Leave them in there, wire it open, and in the case of runaway, release the throttle plates.

That's an even better idea.

[Powered by Spearco]

Really, why not. I've got one of those old Redline/Weber 3" big throttle bodies that would fit my engine perfectly.

[rabbid79]

Really, why not. I've got one of those old Redline/Weber 3" big throttle bodies that would fit my engine perfectly.

No sarcasm, that really is a good idea.  I was considering reversing the spring on my TB for the very purpose, but decided that the holes on either side where the shaft mounts would make a good place to mount methanol injection nozzles.

[Alcaid]

I have the K26 in my Audi Quattro, and it's even laggy on a 2.2 petrol engine, a diesel engine has less exhaust energy than a petrol car with the same displacement, so your car being a diesel and lower displacement will have a really  hard time getting that turbo to spool....

[rabbid79]

FYI, there's a used K24 from a 200 20V for sale on audifans.com for $60.

[R.O.R-2.0]

Really, why not. I've got one of those old Redline/Weber 3" big throttle bodies that would fit my engine perfectly.

No sarcasm, that really is a good idea.  I was considering reversing the spring on my TB for the very purpose, but decided that the holes on either side where the shaft mounts would make a good place to mount methanol injection nozzles.

ive thought about it before, the throttle plates completely close on a gasser TB.. but i feel it would be a restriction to the intake..

the big weber 3" may not be, but the progressive VW unit, i bet is restrictive..

[tdotdub]

So lets make this less dry.. Here is a not so good pic of my audi. Last june, at junejitter bug!



now the donor car where I am getting everything from



And after working a bit on it... I stopped cuz it got dark and I got tired.



As you can see, I also got a spare k26 turbo sitting around

BillyWillicker - Thanks i'll shall do that very soon when I throw my turbo on

rabbid79 - Yes I am planning on running the gasser intake manifold, and than the intercooler would be easy to put on. Today, I also toyed with the idea on putting the intercooler on the k24 and leaving it as is.. But its not so easy. And who am I kidding I want the k26

Powered by Spearco - Yes I was actually already debating on that. It would be cool if I could actually make it work. But lets not get that far ahead yet. But if everything goes well this should be on the car and running maybe sunday.

Sadly I don't think I will have time to work on it tomorrow. But I got to keep a good progress with this project, cuz summer shows are almost here. And still need to do some body work (damn rust)

[tdotdub]

Update

Okay... who ever said a k26 is not a bolt on set up is CORRECT. BUT no one pin pointed it why. The reason is. The waste-gate DOES NOT CLEAR the pump timing belt.. fml. So the waste-gates needs to be moved. Pics to come why it does not clear it soon.

[the caveman]

Just seeing pictures of under the hood of a gasser 5000 makes my stomach turn. Instilled my hate for Audis. But of course a diesel, that's a different story

[R.O.R-2.0]

Update

Okay... who ever said a k26 is not a bolt on set up is CORRECT. BUT no one pin pointed it why. The reason is. The waste-gate DOES NOT CLEAR the pump timing belt.. fml. So the waste-gates needs to be moved. Pics to come why it does not clear it soon.

i called it, and everybody acted like i was smoking crack, so i just sat back and waited for my point to be proven all on its own. that was alot easier than arguing with anyone. 

[rabbid79]

the K26 is NOT a bolt on upgrade.. i have a gasser K26, and a 2.0TD k24. along with the rest of the 2.0TD.. the manifold has a rectangular flange.. the K26 has a flange just like a volvo 740 gasser turbo.. and no waste gate. K26s off audis are external wastegated..

i called it, and everybody acted like i was smoking crack, so i just sat back and waited for my point to be proven all on its own. that was alot easier than arguing with anyone.

R.O.R., it looks like you were right and I was wrong.  Due to the WG clearance issue, it is not a bolt on upgrade.  Perhaps next time you might say actually say "The wastegate and the fuel injection pump belt will interfere with each other", instead of your vague original comment about being externally wastegated.

I believe that if you had actually known what the problem would be, you wouldn't have let the guy waste time trying it for himself.  You would have said "Look at the pictures dude, the wastegate is in the way of the FI pump belt."

[R.O.R-2.0]

the K26 is NOT a bolt on upgrade.. i have a gasser K26, and a 2.0TD k24. along with the rest of the 2.0TD.. the manifold has a rectangular flange.. the K26 has a flange just like a volvo 740 gasser turbo.. and no waste gate. K26s off audis are external wastegated..

i called it, and everybody acted like i was smoking crack, so i just sat back and waited for my point to be proven all on its own. that was alot easier than arguing with anyone.

R.O.R., it looks like you were right and I was wrong.  Due to the WG clearance issue, it is not a bolt on upgrade.  Perhaps next time you might say actually say "The wastegate and the fuel injection pump belt will interfere with each other", instead of your vague original comment about being externally wastegated.

I believe that if you had actually known what the problem would be, you wouldn't have let the guy waste time trying it for himself.  You would have said "Look at the pictures dude, the wastegate is in the way of the FI pump belt."

your right, i could have elaborated, but it was easiest to just say nothing.. because knowing me, it probably would have gotten into a heater arguement some how.. so i just left it alone.. sorry i had to let him find out the hard way.. and i wasnt positive that it was the WG or what made it not work, i just know i was asking my friend about doing a K26 swap on my audi, and he said it doesnt fit, so i dropped it. so i actually learned something too. i knew it didnt work, i just didnt know exactly what didnt work. sorry guys..

[rabbid79]

your right, i could have elaborated, but it was easiest to just say nothing.. because knowing me, it probably would have gotten into a heater arguement some how.. so i just left it alone.. sorry i had to let him find out the hard way.. and i wasnt positive that it was the WG or what made it not work, i just know i was asking my friend about doing a K26 swap on my audi, and he said it doesnt fit, so i dropped it. so i actually learned something too. i knew it didnt work, i just didnt know exactly what didnt work. sorry guys..

Thanks R.O.R., that makes sense.  I think we all learned something new.  I had actually thought about doing this same thing sometime down the road, so I'm glad to know now that it doesn't work.  Let's put this behind us.

tdotdub, thanks for the pics, you car looks good.  Where is the rust on your car?  These Audis usually have pretty good corosion resistance.

[tdotdub]

Well I still have not given this up yet... I am toying with making this work. And I'll keep you guys posted how it happens. (should be on my car this week if it all goes well). And I actually think my idea could be done easy/inexpensive.

But i'm getting told not to, since it will be too laggy. So unless I can pull serious power out of the stock one (in the next 2 days). Than this turbo will HAVE TO fit.

We do learn something new every day. I swear, when I found out the WG does not clear. I was thinking DAMN IT R.O.R was right!

the caveman- I agree with you 100 percent. My battle with malfunctioning CIS-E was 3 years. It was so bad, that I was using 18-20 Liters per hundred kms! I don't even want to know how much that is in MPG! (cuz I would cry). And I KNOW I AM RIGHT, my reasoning is 3 of my friends calculated all my tanks! Sooooo one day I lost control on the interstate and damaged my fender and my rear door. Than I was unable to find a used door. Never the less, in my search I found a forsale audi 5000 diesel


The parts 2wd diesel audi... This diesel engine is SOOO fun in a quattro!

Rabbid79- Well its not bad on rust. Nothing like my mk3! I guess, I am picky. So I'm replacing 3 or 4 doors, this month. Oh and 2 fenders. Well and the hood (not due to surface rust, but ratter it got backed into and bent it beyond repair... damn hit and run). The panels I will paint my self for this year (I paint decent). But with time (next year), I will repaint the whole car at the body shop.

keep posted for updates on the k26....

[rabbid79]

tdotdub, glad to hear the rust isn't too bad.  I'd really be interested in some pictures of the engine compartment of that Type 44 diesel parts car.  My diesel conversion is mostly complete (working on intercooler currently), but I always like to see first hand how the factory did stuff.

There are a couple parts you may want from it for your conversion that are unique to the diesel such as the fuel filler neck, air filter box, air box to turbo hose, instrument cluster, downpipe, etc.  If it has the NC engine code, and you're interested in selling engine parts, let me know.