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April 07, 2011, 07:19:28 pm

motomike33y

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swapping auto for manual?
« on: April 07, 2011, 07:19:28 pm »
have a chance to get 2003 jetta tdi w/auto trans.  It works now but has had some overdrive issues, but car is cheap(belongs to my brother).  I don't like autos and have read that the 2003 auto isn't dependable.  Is it feasible if it goes to replace it w/a 5 speed stick?  thanks
82 vanagon 1.6 waiting rebuild
81 jetta w/dasher 1.5 engine
91 jetta w/ 85 golf 1.6 NA- work in progress           suzuki samurai hardtop that may someday be diesel
2012 golf tdi

Reply #1April 07, 2011, 08:56:36 pm

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Re: swapping auto for manual?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2011, 08:56:36 pm »
you need pedal cluster, gauge cluster, ecu, hydrolic brake mc res, clutch slave cyl, clutch/pp obviously, axles, center console forward section, shift cable box/cables, rear motor motor mount, drivers trans mount, and then you have the wiring, you can just jumper both clutch switches and the cruise/starter will work (cant remember if wiring is present, never taken apart a mk4 auto dash), and you need to over ride the starter interlock thingy for the auto gearbox.

Then you will have imobilizer problems, I recommend you purchase an imobilizer-defeated ecu at this time, infinite expensive headaches can be avoided.
 
but you will have an 11mm pump!

so, yes it can be done,
is it worth it?? eh, I would do it, but I wouldn't do it for  anyone else. lol.well, maybe for a lot of money.
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Reply #2April 08, 2011, 06:43:31 am

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Re: swapping auto for manual?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 06:43:31 am »
thanks-I hadn't thought about all the collateral stuff.  PIA definitely. 
82 vanagon 1.6 waiting rebuild
81 jetta w/dasher 1.5 engine
91 jetta w/ 85 golf 1.6 NA- work in progress           suzuki samurai hardtop that may someday be diesel
2012 golf tdi

Reply #3April 08, 2011, 10:01:31 am

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Re: swapping auto for manual?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2011, 10:01:31 am »
Might be worth looking at a 6 speed if you are going through all the trouble anyways
Tyler

Reply #4April 08, 2011, 10:25:09 am

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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 10:25:09 am »
thanks, I'm not doing anything yet but looking at options for worst case scenario
82 vanagon 1.6 waiting rebuild
81 jetta w/dasher 1.5 engine
91 jetta w/ 85 golf 1.6 NA- work in progress           suzuki samurai hardtop that may someday be diesel
2012 golf tdi

Reply #5April 14, 2011, 04:07:05 pm

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Re: swapping auto for manual?
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2011, 04:07:05 pm »
Actually it depends how mechanically inclined you are. Its not as bad as was stated though daunting for a novice. Immobilizer isn't a problem if you leave cluster alone, it will have prnd321 but they will just be there non functional. Your best bet is to find someone parting a smashed one and buy a 5 speed swap kit. You can go 6 speed but would be 2000+ a 5 speed swap can be done for under 1k if your thrifty. There are many threads around on it search Kill da wabbit and you should get some good info even some parts lists including the little stuff.On tdi club they even have a few folks selling 5speed swap kits in classifieds. I'm going to be doing a 2001 nb auto to 5speed swap in a couple weeks, i just need a few more pieces(cluthc pedal and linkage), but i am super thrifty and if the pick and pull doesn't have what i need i usually wait!
Tim
83 rabbit shell 92 cabby tdi conversion, 91 cabby aba conversion, 87 cabby,  87 gti,  01nb tdi new project,00 1.8t nb, 98 ranger,92 f150 flareside(its pink) 97 cabrio and a 00 cabrio!