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March 22, 2011, 06:27:16 pm

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which motor for rebuild
« on: March 22, 2011, 06:27:16 pm »
i have two engine and transmission

One is in my car 1.9TD k14 378,500kms
and another in my garage 1.9TD forget what turbo, but one stud broken :'( 330,000 kms

The one in my car has new atlernator and water pump
One in my garage idk whats new whats old.

My question is, which one would be better to rebuild? what do i look for in regards in condition for a rebuild? one in my car is ALOT (spotless) cleaner other one isnt.
What do i need?

thanks


93 vw Golf 1.9TD soon to be stage 3 malone TDi (project)
2003 VW 1.8T Passat (daily)

Reply #1March 22, 2011, 06:44:33 pm

Bugsy_malone 666

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Re: which motor for rebuild
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2011, 06:44:33 pm »
If your rebuilding it, why does it matter?

over 300k your going to want to replace most parts and get them remachined anyway and as for ancilleries, just swap on your known good ones.

Reply #2March 22, 2011, 07:12:44 pm

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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2011, 07:12:44 pm »
use the one in the garage, then you can continue driving your car as you build the new engine.
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #3March 22, 2011, 07:45:31 pm

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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2011, 07:45:31 pm »
alright then.. what tools do i need? what is needed to take apart internals? and any does or donts?
93 vw Golf 1.9TD soon to be stage 3 malone TDi (project)
2003 VW 1.8T Passat (daily)

Reply #4March 22, 2011, 08:04:56 pm

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Re: which motor for rebuild
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2011, 08:04:56 pm »
alright then.. what tools do i need? what is needed to take apart internals? and any does or donts?

maybe you better just bring the engine to the shop and have them do it?
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #5March 22, 2011, 08:32:57 pm

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Re: which motor for rebuild
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2011, 08:32:57 pm »
alright then.. what tools do i need? what is needed to take apart internals? and any does or donts?

maybe you better just bring the engine to the shop and have them do it?
Ha.

A couple or wrenches, and a socket set and your set. Most popular size being a 13mm socket for alot of stuff. Make sure you have some 5mm and 6mm allen keys. And a set of 12 point sockets for the pressure plate and rod caps. And last but not least, a set (or at least an 8mm) triple square bit for the cv axles. The head bolts are triple square to but I used a torx bit and it worked just fine.
There is NO special tools needed for anything on the engine, besides the triple square bit of course.

One of the 1.9TD's was the first engine Ive even torn down and rebuilt and its all gone back together so far, so it must not be that hard :P
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Reply #6March 22, 2011, 08:41:44 pm

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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2011, 08:41:44 pm »
Koady you can snag the triple squares in Part Source. They are made by Performance tool and you'll have the one for the cv's and the one for the head. I think they set me back a whopping 10 bucks.
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I do know that I drive torque,  while listening to my friends prattle on about horsepower.

Reply #7March 23, 2011, 01:26:08 am

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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2011, 01:26:08 am »
Koady you can snag the triple squares in Part Source. They are made by Performance tool and you'll have the one for the cv's and the one for the head. I think they set me back a whopping 10 bucks.

Crappy tire sells them also for about the same price. A hell of alot cheaper then the Snap On set thats around 200 bucks
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Reply #8March 23, 2011, 03:46:19 pm

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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2011, 03:46:19 pm »
alright thanks. and i want to do it myself so i can learn and to save moneys :P
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2003 VW 1.8T Passat (daily)

Reply #9March 23, 2011, 04:07:58 pm

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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2011, 04:07:58 pm »
Only other thing I would highly recommend would be a Bentley manual. Actually you really can't rebuild an engine without it since it has all the torque values, wear specs, etc.
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Reply #10March 24, 2011, 07:10:28 am

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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2011, 07:10:28 am »
i have a haynes manuel with all the torque values.. or is that on garbage?
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2003 VW 1.8T Passat (daily)

Reply #11March 24, 2011, 07:19:39 am

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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2011, 07:19:39 am »
i have a haynes manuel with all the torque values.. or is that on garbage?

  IIRC it has some missing values, which is why the DPO of my car gave me both with the sale.
Quote from: Vincent Walden
I do know that I drive torque,  while listening to my friends prattle on about horsepower.

Reply #12March 24, 2011, 10:08:51 am

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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2011, 10:08:51 am »
oh then. ill pick one  up then  ;D
93 vw Golf 1.9TD soon to be stage 3 malone TDi (project)
2003 VW 1.8T Passat (daily)

Reply #13March 24, 2011, 10:39:26 am

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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2011, 10:39:26 am »
Koady, its fairly easy to take the motors apart,

Just remember to push the cylinders up thru the top when taking them out.
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Reply #14March 24, 2011, 02:02:02 pm

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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2011, 02:02:02 pm »
Koady, its fairly easy to take the motors apart,

Just remember to push the Pistons up thru the top when taking them out.

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