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March 21, 2011, 07:39:04 am

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Short shifter
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I am running a 1.6d gearbox, which is the best short shifter to get?



Reply #1March 21, 2011, 09:03:56 am

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Re: Short shifter
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Reply #2March 21, 2011, 03:06:48 pm

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Re: Short shifter
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2011, 03:06:48 pm »
by how much does it reduce the throw?

anyother ones out there?

Reply #3March 21, 2011, 08:06:59 pm

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Re: Short shifter
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2011, 08:06:59 pm »
its a solid kit. If I were you though, I'd get the short throw kit, upgrade the shifter liankages and get an A3 weighted shifter from the junk yard or from the stealership. A lot of the ebay weighted shifters are over priced.
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Reply #4March 21, 2011, 11:35:02 pm

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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2011, 11:35:02 pm »
I think that USRT has them too. They are a kit that you put together and can adjust all angles.

Heres a link to a kit at BFI.
http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html.
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Reply #5March 21, 2011, 11:38:21 pm

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Re: Short shifter
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2011, 11:38:21 pm »
The missing linkz kit I posted has 0 25% and 50% throw reduction depending on where you put it.

Reply #6March 22, 2011, 12:50:22 am

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Re: Short shifter
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2011, 12:50:22 am »
Yep, basic short throw arm has 2 settings as noted above and below:
- http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/ForSale/ShiftLinkage.shtml#ShortThrow

Or there is a fully adjustable version with a slotted arm:
- http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/ForSale/ShiftLinkage.shtml#AdjShortThrow





That is about as long as you can go:



You can also drill a shorter hole on the selector lever on the transaxle, although this can have some negative aspects as well:
- http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/ForSale/ShiftLinkage.shtml#FAQ11
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Reply #7March 22, 2011, 08:47:02 pm

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Re: Short shifter
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2011, 08:47:02 pm »
I think that USRT has them too. They are a kit that you put together and can adjust all angles.

Heres a link to a kit at BFI.
http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html.


I have this kit, looks awsome, its just waiting to go back in with my engine soon hopefully, Got it on ebay for $140
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Reply #8May 12, 2011, 11:24:55 pm

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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2011, 11:24:55 pm »
I think that USRT has them too. They are a kit that you put together and can adjust all angles.

Heres a link to a kit at BFI.
http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html.


I have this kit, looks awsome, its just waiting to go back in with my engine soon hopefully, Got it on ebay for $140

And this is a direct bolt on for the 1.6td?

Reply #9May 13, 2011, 01:48:59 pm

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Re: Short shifter
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2011, 01:48:59 pm »
I think that USRT has them too. They are a kit that you put together and can adjust all angles.

Heres a link to a kit at BFI.
http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html.


I have this kit, looks awsome, its just waiting to go back in with my engine soon hopefully, Got it on ebay for $140

And this is a direct bolt on for the 1.6td?

the 1.6 TD has nothing to do with it, unless it has some goofy shaped downpipe.. it will fit any 020 equipped vehicle pretty much..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
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Reply #10May 13, 2011, 09:08:42 pm

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Re: Short shifter
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2011, 09:08:42 pm »


And this is a direct bolt on for the 1.6td?


the 1.6 TD has nothing to do with it, unless it has some goofy shaped downpipe.. it will fit any 020 equipped vehicle pretty much..

Thanks. It looks sexy as all get out. I am getting ready to do the clutch with the eurospec lightened flywheel kit from BFI, and the 1st gear is gettin a little sloppy, so was thinking upgrade. But am weary of just buying the first thing I see that looks cool, so its good to see other members of the forum vouching for shiz Im looking to do to the Eco.

Also, thanks for the tip on the Audi 5000 badge. You have been most helpful as of late with a lot of things I have been doing to this car. Seriously, thanks.

She is just making sure its the right temp for you...



Reply #11May 14, 2011, 12:51:00 pm

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Re: Short shifter
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2011, 12:51:00 pm »


And this is a direct bolt on for the 1.6td?


the 1.6 TD has nothing to do with it, unless it has some goofy shaped downpipe.. it will fit any 020 equipped vehicle pretty much..

Thanks. It looks sexy as all get out. I am getting ready to do the clutch with the eurospec lightened flywheel kit from BFI, and the 1st gear is gettin a little sloppy, so was thinking upgrade. But am weary of just buying the first thing I see that looks cool, so its good to see other members of the forum vouching for shiz Im looking to do to the Eco.

Also, thanks for the tip on the Audi 5000 badge. You have been most helpful as of late with a lot of things I have been doing to this car. Seriously, thanks.

She is just making sure its the right temp for you...




i would avoid the lightened flywheel.. a gasser flywheel is lighter than a diesel flywheel.. so if you wanna go with a lightened, go with a stock gasser flywheel..

these are all examples:

say the stock diesel FW weighs 20 lbs, well the gasser wheel will weigh like 15 lbs, and the lightened wheel will weigh about 12 lbs..

see what im saying here? use stock pieces and get the same effect? using too light of a flywheel on a diesel will make it idle a lil rougher, and have quite a bit less low end power.. been there, done that, thats why i say the gasser flywheel works good. cheaper too.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #12May 14, 2011, 12:55:49 pm

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Re: Short shifter
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2011, 12:55:49 pm »
Wtf? I thought that the less rotating mass you have on the engine, the better? For all applications? Lease explain? Cause the flywheel is already here. Will be posting a pic soon for help with marking tdc.

Reply #13May 16, 2011, 12:20:38 pm

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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2011, 12:20:38 pm »
Well, if you have a high revving gas engine, yes lighter is better, lets the engine wind up faster.  Lets the engine wind up faster and all that.  On a slower revving diesel, a heavier flywheel well help to smooth out the rough diesel idle and help with low end torque.  When I did a new flywheel on my 1.9, I went with the OEM 210mm gas part.  My thoughts were that if I had the choice of making a lower speed, slower revving diesel engine perhaps rev up a little faster (but nowhere near as fast as a small gas engine), or smoothing out the lumpy idle and increasing the pull off the line, I went with the latter.
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Reply #14May 16, 2011, 12:34:12 pm

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Re: Short shifter
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2011, 12:34:12 pm »
gotta remember that your diesel, with a governor mod, only turns ~5800

and if no governor mod, 4800 rpms..

you dont need a light flywheel to get you to 5800..

i can notice a light flywheel on a diesel pretty easily. but a heavy flywheel, you dont really get any ill effects from it. power isnt any slower..

diesels are a lazy engine by nature.. they dont need a light flywheel. its kinda counter-productive if you ask me.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.