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March 19, 2011, 06:40:24 am

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Anti Roll Bar Missing????
« on: March 19, 2011, 06:40:24 am »
Hi all,

Trying to diagnose suspension noise on golf mk3 diesel (1.9 n/a 1Y) thought might be anti roll bar loose or snapped mounts off (Had happen before on other cars) but can't even seem too see anti roll bar!! can see in the wishbones mounting holes for it. is it connected elsewhere??

Did it ever have one ???

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Thanks




Reply #1March 19, 2011, 01:43:03 pm

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Re: Anti Roll Bar Missing????
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2011, 01:43:03 pm »
probably never had a sway bar..
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Reply #2March 20, 2011, 02:48:25 am

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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2011, 02:48:25 am »
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
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Reply #3March 20, 2011, 03:51:11 pm

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Re: Anti Roll Bar Missing????
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2011, 03:51:11 pm »
most cars dont have front sway bars unless they are a sportier model of car..

the Jetta/Golf (base models) never really got sway bars, but the GLI/GTI got sway bars front and rear..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #4March 21, 2011, 04:58:17 am

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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2011, 04:58:17 am »
Thanks..

Noise turned out to be brake pad rattle anyway!

Good to know it was never there though and not fallen or taken off by previous owner or something like that..!

Reply #5March 21, 2011, 12:59:35 pm

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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2011, 12:59:35 pm »
brake pad rattle is a hard one to track down.. and annoying as all hell!
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #6March 24, 2011, 12:03:13 pm

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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2011, 12:03:13 pm »
Changing the pads was the last thing i did on the car.. figured I'd start by checking those...

Reply #7March 25, 2011, 02:14:48 am

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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2011, 02:14:48 am »
I would still check the strut bearings, they are ignored so hard core, most are bad anyways.
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Reply #8March 25, 2011, 12:16:55 pm

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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2011, 12:16:55 pm »
I would still check the strut bearings, they are ignored so hard core, most are bad anyways.

he already got rid of the rattle..

strut bearings sound WAY different than brake pad rattle..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #9March 25, 2011, 10:41:07 pm

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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2011, 10:41:07 pm »
Agreed, but it they sound a lot like what a broken or mis mounted sway bar would, he never actually described the sound at all.
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Reply #10March 25, 2011, 11:49:05 pm

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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2011, 11:49:05 pm »
brake pad rattle is the easiest thing to diagnose.

Noise on bumps? smallest bumps in the road? does it go away with the lightest application of the brakes? Brake pad rattle.

:D lol

glad you got it sorted out :)

Reply #11March 26, 2011, 08:32:32 am

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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2011, 08:32:32 am »
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Noise on bumps? smallest bumps in the road? does it go away with the lightest application of the brakes? Brake pad rattle.

So thought I too, until I found a broken strut spring. ;D Quiet now.

Just to thread jack, often when dead dampers, shocks, get swapped out, people often bodge getting the notched strut nut (that holds the top mount tight to the spring and damper rod) tight enough. Then lots of looking for that weird rattle. ???

Reply #12March 26, 2011, 01:08:06 pm

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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2011, 01:08:06 pm »
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Noise on bumps? smallest bumps in the road? does it go away with the lightest application of the brakes? Brake pad rattle.

So thought I too, until I found a broken strut spring. ;D Quiet now.

Just to thread jack, often when dead dampers, shocks, get swapped out, people often bodge getting the notched strut nut (that holds the top mount tight to the spring and damper rod) tight enough. Then lots of looking for that weird rattle. ???

yea, on mk2/3 cars.. i had a rattle like this once.. then i made a socket to tighten that weird notched nut..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #13March 31, 2011, 05:22:20 am

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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2011, 05:22:20 am »
brake pad rattle is the easiest thing to diagnose.

Noise on bumps? smallest bumps in the road? does it go away with the lightest application of the brakes? Brake pad rattle.

:D lol

glad you got it sorted out :)

You wouldnt believe how long it took me to think of this haha, but it is deffinatley the easiest way to figure it out.
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Reply #14April 01, 2011, 10:22:13 am

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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2011, 10:22:13 am »
brake pad rattle is the easiest thing to diagnose.

Noise on bumps? smallest bumps in the road? does it go away with the lightest application of the brakes? Brake pad rattle.

:D lol

glad you got it sorted out :)

You wouldnt believe how long it took me to think of this haha, but it is deffinatley the easiest way to figure it out.

i drove around for thousands of miles with the pads rattling on my black rabbit, half of the reason i never fixed it was i didnt really care much, and never knew what was rattling. then i put new pads on it, and new clips, and it was SILENT.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.