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March 14, 2011, 10:32:56 pm

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What seals the bleeder screw in an MK1 fuel filter housing??
« on: March 14, 2011, 10:32:56 pm »
I've ripped three of these things apart and there appears to be nothing in there, yet it looks like there is a groove for some sort of washer.. Not touchin the one on the Rabbit as it's not leaking, but the other several I've taken apart there appeared to be nothing, and they all leak the same place..  Is it fiber, and maybe disintigrating when I take it apart???

Reply #1March 14, 2011, 10:41:57 pm

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Re: What seals the bleeder screw in an MK1 fuel filter housing??
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2011, 10:41:57 pm »
My truck has a copper washer in there, but I've seen rubber, and I've seen nothing. Who know. Maybe check ETKA: VW's online catalog.  You can access it from www.wagenstad.com


Reply #2March 14, 2011, 10:52:20 pm

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Re: What seals the bleeder screw in an MK1 fuel filter housing??
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2011, 10:52:20 pm »
Thanks for the link Quantum, I'll have to look..   First time I ever had problems with one leaking, but this is also the first application where I had a pre filter lift pump..   I swear some of my past Vw's had a copper washer in there..  At the moment I'm afraid to check the Rabbit I'm driving, all the other ones appear to have nothing, but IDK..  It's an odd size whatever it is, been through all my copper/fiber/rubber stuff and nothing seems to fit too well..  I'd think an o-ring would just crush in there..

Reply #3March 14, 2011, 10:53:21 pm

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Re: What seals the bleeder screw in an MK1 fuel filter housing??
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2011, 10:53:21 pm »
Damn, the website's down for maintenance tonight..  How will I ever get to sleep without knowing this??    ;D

Reply #4March 15, 2011, 12:00:57 pm

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Re: What seals the bleeder screw in an MK1 fuel filter housing??
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2011, 12:00:57 pm »
all my filter flanges have a fiber gasket under the bleeder..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #5March 15, 2011, 02:49:31 pm

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Re: What seals the bleeder screw in an MK1 fuel filter housing??
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2011, 02:49:31 pm »
all my filter flanges have a fiber gasket under the bleeder..

That's what I suspected..  They're probably turning to dust when I take em apart...  I think I found a copper washer that'll fit.. 

Reply #6March 15, 2011, 09:19:50 pm

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Re: What seals the bleeder screw in an MK1 fuel filter housing??
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2011, 09:19:50 pm »
I was thinking they originally used a paper gasket but wasn't sure.
 Thanks for clearing that up,... I have a paper punch.
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Reply #7March 16, 2011, 12:54:07 am

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Re: What seals the bleeder screw in an MK1 fuel filter housing??
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2011, 12:54:07 am »
Thanks indeed Kevin..  Got brave and pulled the screw on my rabbit, sure enough the washer was still in tact.. I got several of the copper washers that'll fit in there for future problems...

Reply #8March 16, 2011, 09:25:52 am

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Re: What seals the bleeder screw in an MK1 fuel filter housing??
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2011, 09:25:52 am »
glad i could help!

im also glad you have gone thru bringing chevy 6.5's back from the dead.. i have a feeling you are going to be my new best friend for a while..

i would be ripping my hair out if i had no help on that truck..

if it were up to me, i would fix the truck with a 94 pump.. get rid of all those stupid electronics..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #9March 16, 2011, 04:22:56 pm

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Re: What seals the bleeder screw in an MK1 fuel filter housing??
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2011, 04:22:56 pm »
IF it weren't for the 4l80e trans I think I would have done that on my '98 after the PMD failed the second time.. A stand alone controller for the trans was pushing $600, the D-Tech PMD was $200..  And since I already had the relocation kit (which is worth twice what they cost for the added ease of replacing these things) it didn't involve much work..  They guy I sold that truck too has put a crapload of miles on it and it's still going strong...

Other than the PMD and the speed sensor in the pump, the electronics aren't too terribly horrid on those..  It seems that GM had an optical sensor fetish for a while there, and the one in the pump is optical..  Very precise, but not so durable.. Dirt and water screws with them royally..  I've heard rumors that the dye in offroad fuel can stain the lense and screw with them, but I've not verified that...
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Reply #10March 18, 2011, 02:43:00 pm

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Re: What seals the bleeder screw in an MK1 fuel filter housing??
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2011, 02:43:00 pm »
IF it weren't for the 4l80e trans I think I would have done that on my '98 after the PMD failed the second time.. A stand alone controller for the trans was pushing $600, the D-Tech PMD was $200..  And since I already had the relocation kit (which is worth twice what they cost for the added ease of replacing these things) it didn't involve much work..  They guy I sold that truck too has put a crapload of miles on it and it's still going strong...

Other than the PMD and the speed sensor in the pump, the electronics aren't too terribly horrid on those..  It seems that GM had an optical sensor fetish for a while there, and the one in the pump is optical..  Very precise, but not so durable.. Dirt and water screws with them royally..  I've heard rumors that the dye in offroad fuel can stain the lense and screw with them, but I've not verified that...

funny you say something about that..

his truck is full of red fuel..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #11March 18, 2011, 10:30:24 pm

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Re: What seals the bleeder screw in an MK1 fuel filter housing??
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2011, 10:30:24 pm »
funny you say something about that..

his truck is full of red fuel..

I think that's more urban legend than anything else..  I've heard it talked about on other forums, but never from someone it's actually happened to...  I kinda doubt that the slight amount of dye is vicious enough to break down that plastic lense and stain it when the thing is submersed in diesel all the time...