High Oil Pressure

[R.O.R-2.0]

the filter hangs off the engine with the filter facing up.. the top of the filter faces up. vertically installed..

if the filter were installed on its side, it would be horizontally mounted..

[BigVWman]

Of course none of the filter talk helps the original problem, but doesn't "most" of the oil end up bypassing the filter anyway because of how the pressures are set up in the bypass valve in the filter?

No, the filter is very important on pressures. Mine that I run yeilds 5-10psi better than the orange thing. And it builds pressure faster on cold start, I think because of drainback. Plus if the expoxy/cardboard mix in the orange filter comes apart it is then pretty much a 100% bypass. That could effect the oil pressure and may have happened here if his filter was only 1/2 full. I don't think the orange is as good of quality as most and could be causing some pressure issues because of that.
Before I knew any better and my local place didn't have a PH3569 I used an old ford gasser I think PH1 since it was the "same". Randomly my oil light and buzzer would go off until the next oil change, then it dissappeared. The PH1 has differnent internals and roughly 1/2 of the bypass rating as the 3569 and it was causing some pressure issues. So I guess what I am saying is the filter is a relavant point...maybe not his answer, but maybe it is. I would look more into the oil pump as stated in my previous post.

My point was, and as you pointed out, if the filter were a problem it usually results in lack of pressure, not an over pressure situation when pressure is measured at the head!

[R.O.R-2.0]

i bet its either fine, or the pressure relief is stuck closed.

[caddysaver]

UPDATE, Installed a different filter than the orange one and the oil pressure at idle with a warm engine is 30 psi and when I give it a rev it jumps to about 60 psi and that is at the head. I think that the filter could have been the issue. Now I have an oil leak at the cover gasket, the fun continues, an other reason to get out of the house. CHEERS

 

[R.O.R-2.0]

UPDATE, Installed a different filter than the orange one and the oil pressure at idle with a warm engine is 30 psi and when I give it a rev it jumps to about 60 psi and that is at the head. I think that the filter could have been the issue. Now I have an oil leak at the cover gasket, the fun continues, an other reason to get out of the house. CHEERS

 

that sounds completely acceptable...

[theman53]

Of course none of the filter talk helps the original problem, but doesn't "most" of the oil end up bypassing the filter anyway because of how the pressures are set up in the bypass valve in the filter?

No, the filter is very important on pressures. Mine that I run yeilds 5-10psi better than the orange thing. And it builds pressure faster on cold start, I think because of drainback. Plus if the expoxy/cardboard mix in the orange filter comes apart it is then pretty much a 100% bypass. That could effect the oil pressure and may have happened here if his filter was only 1/2 full. I don't think the orange is as good of quality as most and could be causing some pressure issues because of that.
Before I knew any better and my local place didn't have a PH3569 I used an old ford gasser I think PH1 since it was the "same". Randomly my oil light and buzzer would go off until the next oil change, then it dissappeared. The PH1 has differnent internals and roughly 1/2 of the bypass rating as the 3569 and it was causing some pressure issues. So I guess what I am saying is the filter is a relavant point...maybe not his answer, but maybe it is. I would look more into the oil pump as stated in my previous post.

My point was, and as you pointed out, if the filter were a problem it usually results in lack of pressure, not an over pressure situation when pressure is measured at the head!

Yep *usually*

[BigVWman]

Well i'll be darned! congrats!
Wow i am amazed, i know problem is solved but can someone help me understand how on earth a filter would contribute to high pressure at the head?

[caddysaver]

BIGWVMAN,

I saw a cut a way of an orange filter, which is held togehter inside by cardboard, a Napa filter hold together with metal. I have not cut open my orange one yet but I think that the insde of the orange one comes apart and the oil does not go through the cardboard filter which would reduce pressure

[theman53]

Well i'll be darned! congrats!
Wow i am amazed, i know problem is solved but can someone help me understand how on earth a filter would contribute to high pressure at the head?

Smaller holes? larger holes??? something just right to trick the oil pump into thinking it isn't the correct pressure? Don't know.
BUT I do not trust the orange Your results may vary

[8v-of-fury]

I have used ORANGE brand for 4 years now with almost every oil change, No problem with anything.

[maxfax]

I have used ORANGE brand for 4 years now with almost every oil change, No problem with anything.

It's a tempermental VW thing (there's something new, right?)..  Sometimes they work, sometimes they plug, sometimes they explode..

[Vincent Waldon]

I have used ORANGE brand for 4 years now with almost every oil change, No problem with anything.

It's a tempermental VW thing (there's something new, right?)..  Sometimes they work, sometimes they plug, sometimes they explode..

Or it's further evidence of hit-and-miss QC from Big Orange.  ;-)

[maxfax]

That's quite possible Vince, but I have used them in other places and they've been just fine.. Brother in law's t-bird is a #$&* to change the filter on.. It's had Frams with the grippy stuff since it's first oil change back in '94..  It's now sporting 340K miles on the original drive line, and never a filter issue.. I quite expect the engine to see 400K the way it's going... Anything else that I can get to the filter on, doesn't get the pumpkin filters though...

To clarify my earlier statement, if you don't use parts the VW likes, the VW isn't gonna like you.. 

[BigVWman]

I agree with and have seen most of the complaints on the big orange, used to split them all the time when they would clog and it was cold back in mi , but nearly all of what everyone is pointing out creates and all seem to acknowledge creates LOW oil pressure, not high as was the original issue-measured at head. I could understand if it was a low pressure issue, i could understand if it was high pressure measured at the filter, i just don't see how it created HIGH oil pressure at the head. I guess the vw parts statement is right gotta use parts the vw likes!