Gadhafi's son complicit with the market?

[Quantum TD]

Just think of it this way, every time the price goes up at the pump, so do the values of our cars. 

That's fine if you have a fleet you're sitting on. If you only have one and it craps out, and then you'd like to find another, you could be paying more than you'd like for one.

[R.O.R-2.0]

still paying $3.49 at my last fill up that i actually paid for.

last 20 gallons were free tho (its red)

[8v-of-fury]

Good 'ol number 1 eh kev? Lol

I have often had fears of getting dipped when I have a high amount of ATF in my tank.... :s

[R.O.R-2.0]

i used to run a gravity fed beer keg in my last rabbit..

it almost always had red fuel in it..

the cops used to always think i was hauling around alcohol, not illegal diesel.

COME ON FRIGGEN RETARDED COPS! there is a pipe cap on the keg where the friggen tap goes.. not gonna be hauling beer in that one any time soo. theres a return line in the top of the tank too. its completely obvious that it is not a beer keg anymore.. they just wanted to make sure it had no beer in it.. never once did they check to see what color the fuel was. they would just open the keg and sniff.

the fact that it was bolted in the spare tire well of my car and had fuel lines hooked up to it meant nothing to the retarded cops.

oh yea, free red diesel is AWESOME!

so yea, basically, im #1 right now... unless someone can get on-road diesel for free, then that would be one-upping me.. lol.

[Baron VonZeppelin]

We just had our first 'Sheetz' gas store open in our city.
They're doing 2.99 unleaded 87 octane.
Everyone else has shot it to $3.25

Fuel went up 10 cents yesterday alone.

Diesel is 3.65 gallon
A few months ago it was $3'ish per gallon.

2 people asked to buy my TD RabbiTruck yesterday.

[maxfax]

RUG has been jumping 10 cents a day for the last 4 days..  Glad I filled some drums up when it was at $3...   Diesel has been going up much slower but is still around 3.80 a gallon...  WVO is still free for now..  IF it's like the last time this crap went on many places started charging for it.. 

Baron, does your Sheetz have diesel???   They remodeled a bunch of the stores up this way and added at least 2 diesel pumps to most of them..  The stuff has actually been pretty good too...

[Baron VonZeppelin]

Yes they have diesel.
But since it wasn't discounted (3.65) - just kept on rolling.

I might give them a try next time i need fuel again.

[RadoTD]

In my area, diesel went from $1.20/L to the $1.29 I paid for it today.
So glad I'm driving my car again now instead of the poorly running GMC Safari I had insured while working on the Corrado

[maxfax]

Price dropped a bit here today.. It settled to 3.71 a gallon..   

Baron, if you try Sheetz diesel, let me know how it works for you....  Their gas can be kinda hit and miss, but the diesel has been great on every tank..  First thing I noticed was easier cold starting  ..

Previously I had been buying though Sunoco as they had a rewards program, buy stuff (COFFEE!) get money off per gallon.. But they stopped that on diesel fuel, just for gas now ..      I started going hitting one of the 2 truck stops which are owned by small localized chains..  Started buying at Sheetz since I like their coffee better and turns out the diesel seems better too...

I'd still rather be driving the Caprice on a daily basis, but it costs exactly twice as much as the VW to drive.. I've been refraining from it unless the weather is poor or if I'm going a log distance...  Need to get the Oldsmodiesel clattering...

[Baron VonZeppelin]

Baron, if you try Sheetz diesel, let me know how it works for you....  

Their gas can be kinda hit and miss, but the diesel has been great on every tank..  First thing I noticed was easier cold starting  ..

I thought the 2.99 Sheetz deal would be over by now.
But they were still selling at that price at 10pm tonight.

And its still a heavy stream of cars there.

Going to make a run for it in my Jeep Gr.Chkee V8 in just a few minutes (it's after midnight now), and try to get a 6 month supply in it (half a tank- lol).

Probably be a few days before i need Dezil again.

[maxfax]

Going to make a run for it in my Jeep Gr.Chkee V8 in just a few minutes (it's after midnight now), and try to get a 6 month supply in it (half a tank- lol).

Tow it with the Caddy!!  Then you don't have to worry about burning all your new found wealth up on the trip...   

[dankcorey22]

paying 3.25/ gal. but what scares the hell outta me is we(world) surpassed peak oil a long time ago... we might just be walking our butts everywhere.

[maxfax]

I know what you mean Corey..  And when it comes down to it, no matter how much we grumble about what we pay at the pump, pay for out electric and gas, we are still suckin up some pretty darned cheap energy..

Truth be told (and you're all gonna look at me like I'm a lepper) prices need to go higher..  Yeah I like leaving the lights on, keeping the shop at 75 degrees, and driving a land yacht at 100 mph..  

But....

Squigally light bulbs, hybrid cars, corn whiskey, and windmills are all great means of making "greenie" wanna bees feel good about themselves..  But, what we need is a true "dust to dust" solution.. Something renewable that does consume even more resources to harness.  A solution that I feel is only going to be brought about by nearly unaffordable energy, or worse yet, no longer available energy..

 Like many other things out there that need dealing with, this is something we need to stop expecting our governments to get under way.. It needs to be done by "we the people", the thinkers, the tinkerers, those who aren't afraid to try something off the wall and fail then try again..  Those that are not solely in it for the profit.. Do we have any of those left?

[RadoTD]

Truth be told (and you're all gonna look at me like I'm a lepper) prices need to go higher..  Yeah I like leaving the lights on, keeping the shop at 75 degrees, and driving a land yacht at 100 mph..  

But....

Squigally light bulbs, hybrid cars, corn whiskey, and windmills are all great means of making "greenie" wanna bees feel good about themselves..  But, what we need is a true "dust to dust" solution.. Something renewable that does consume even more resources to harness.  A solution that I feel is only going to be brought about by nearly unaffordable energy, or worse yet, no longer available energy..

 Like many other things out there that need dealing with, this is something we need to stop expecting our governments to get under way.. It needs to be done by "we the people", the thinkers, the tinkerers, those who aren't afraid to try something off the wall and fail then try again..  Those that are not solely in it for the profit.. Do we have any of those left?

I completely agree with you. As much as paying a lot for fuel sucks, it's good in the long run. The motivators I see for taking care of the planet are a small number of people who honestly care and do what they can, then a larger number who are going along with the fad to be cool, and then the one that trumps all; saving money. Money the only way to get the masses thinking about what they're burning/wasting.
My biggest fear is that we're going to find reliable and cost effective ways of getting energy from the moon/other planets and start to mess those up as well. There are "dust to dust" solutions out there. They aren't the cheapest though. Bio fuels is one of them, thermal depolymerization as well to turn many things, plastics in particular back to raw hydrocarbons. Hopefully hydro, solar and wind power for electricity will soon become more prominent. As long as the world's vegetation and resources haven't all been harvested or destroyed, I have hope.

As far as the thinkers and tinkerers go, the problem is that the majority of the world is pulling towards their own gain, particularly many of the more powerful people in the world.
I have an idea for a combustion engine that I honestly think could be very fuel efficient. I'm stuck on some calculations, but I think doubling efficiency is possible. I even have ideas of how I could build it, difficult but possible with the tools I have at hand. The big problems I'm running into are how much of a gamble of time and money it would be to build it, and even if it did work well, large companies would walk all over me and take it away. The cost of a patent lawyer that could give me any fighting chance would cripple me financially
For me to pursue it at all, I'd have to hold back so many things in my life, and the chances of me gaining much from it are very slim, so why should I? Right now, I don't have the time or money to go any further in putting it together. I'm not that nice of a guy 

[Runt]

As far as the thinkers and tinkerers go, the problem is that the majority of the world is pulling towards their own gain, particularly many of the more powerful people in the world.
I have an idea for a combustion engine that I honestly think could be very fuel efficient. I'm stuck on some calculations, but I think doubling efficiency is possible. I even have ideas of how I could build it, difficult but possible with the tools I have at hand. The big problems I'm running into are how much of a gamble of time and money it would be to build it, and even if it did work well, large companies would walk all over me and take it away. The cost of a patent lawyer that could give me any fighting chance would cripple me financially
For me to pursue it at all, I'd have to hold back so many things in my life, and the chances of me gaining much from it are very slim, so why should I? Right now, I don't have the time or money to go any further in putting it together. I'm not that nice of a guy 

When the population (or the corporations which may represent/govern/rule them) is convinced that the best efforts of  the 'Thinkers and Tinkerers' should be theirs to usurp freely, it is the obligation of the innovators to withhold any such contributions until such time as those contributions are appropriately valued and CREDITED to the innovator.
(I hereby shrug, and end my rant.
Rado, do you know that a patent can be filed and had without a running prototype?  If you were to actually have something, you could file a patent, written (as all patents are) broadly and a little bit deceptively, without having to actually demonstrate the machine right now.  Then when you are ready, you can set about building what you have already patented.  And along the way, someone else might prove your concept for you and come looking for a licence, or just go into production, at which time (you hope) the patent liar will take the case on contingency.
Of course, this provides no protection in certain overseas nations with a reputation for stealing directly from patent filings and having zero legal support for intillectual property holders, but that would be the case regardless.
Anyways, we are way off topic, on an already OT topic....