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February 23, 2011, 08:59:27 am

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.50mm over sized piston rings vs. 1.6L
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Reply #1February 23, 2011, 10:58:33 am

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Re: .50mm over sized piston rings vs. 1.6L
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 10:58:33 am »
.5mm = .020 over bore..

there has been a discussion about rings going on for a while.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

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Reply #2February 23, 2011, 12:28:27 pm

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Re: .50mm over sized piston rings vs. 1.6L
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 12:28:27 pm »
and just so you know, 1.5 and 1.6Ds have the SAME rings..

make sure the rings you get have a 3 piece oil ring..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #3February 23, 2011, 01:42:33 pm

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Re: .50mm over sized piston rings vs. 1.6L
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 01:42:33 pm »
and just so you know, 1.5 and 1.6Ds have the SAME rings..

make sure the rings you get have a 3 piece oil ring..

Yes, see i felt stupid for even asking the question.  :-\

I guess I just needed to ask to be 100% sure.

Thanks


PS. mods please delete so I don't look like a fool  :'(
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Reply #4February 23, 2011, 02:08:02 pm

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Re: .50mm over sized piston rings vs. 1.6L
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2011, 02:08:02 pm »
you gotta mess up pretty good to get a thread deleted, or ask that it be deleted..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #5February 23, 2011, 03:51:44 pm

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Re: .50mm over sized piston rings vs. 1.6L
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2011, 03:51:44 pm »
PS. mods please delete so I don't look like a foul  :'(

I'm sorry to nitpick, but sometimes irony gets the best of me.  "Fool" is spelled with two O's.

That it is. I was posting from my phone... Sorry about that.
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Reply #6February 23, 2011, 11:00:05 pm

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Re: .50mm over sized piston rings vs. 1.6L
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2011, 11:00:05 pm »
whats with the picking on the new people b.s??

Reallllllly make them feel welcomed and want to ask questions eh, what is this.. The Vortex??

Reply #7February 24, 2011, 09:57:05 am

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Re: .50mm over sized piston rings vs. 1.6L
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2011, 09:57:05 am »
whats with the picking on the new people b.s??

Reallllllly make them feel welcomed and want to ask questions eh, what is this.. The Vortex??

I honestly don't care. I was posting from a touch screen phone, and was in a hurry. I know this was a stupid question, and honestly I should have never asked. I do know my way around these engines, although, it might not seem like it from what I said. I just know that the majority of people on this forum know way more than me, so I figured it wasn't a crime to post. Although, next time I wont post. Sorry for wasting your guys time. 
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Reply #8February 24, 2011, 10:12:56 am

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Re: .50mm over sized piston rings vs. 1.6L
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2011, 10:12:56 am »
It NEVER hurts to ask..  Even if you feel you know the answer, it's usually cheaper to ask... ::)

AS far as touch screens go, I'm about to fix the #&$*(&($* auto correct with a hammer!  >:( >:( >:(

Reply #9February 24, 2011, 10:55:33 am

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Re: .50mm over sized piston rings vs. 1.6L
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2011, 10:55:33 am »
I would like to think I know about these engines as well, but I had no answer for you. I think it a good question. I figured it was different as I didn't know the bore size of the 1.5 vs 1.6.
Definately not a waste of my time

Reply #10February 24, 2011, 10:58:19 am

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Re: .50mm over sized piston rings vs. 1.6L
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2011, 10:58:19 am »
i just KNEW that the 1.5 and 1.6 are the same bore size. the stroke is what makes a 1.5 smaller. its a de-stroked 1.6...
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #11February 24, 2011, 11:59:24 am

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Re: .50mm over sized piston rings vs. 1.6L
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2011, 11:59:24 am »
Yes, I have mainly worked with 1.6's and have little knowledge of 1.5's. I know they have the same bore size, but different pistons, or at least the over sized pistons are different, and many say they are made of "unobtainium." All I wanted to do is make sure the rings themselves were not made of the same material...
 

And yes I hear you about the damned auto correct.  >:(
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Reply #12February 24, 2011, 11:59:41 am

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Re: .50mm over sized piston rings vs. 1.6L
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2011, 11:59:41 am »
Actually, the 1.6 is a stroked 1.5. The latter came first.
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Reply #13February 24, 2011, 12:27:09 pm

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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2011, 12:27:09 pm »
For future reference for someone down the road:

Differences in the 1.5 aside from stroke

Different sized wrist pin and rod bearing, center oil return port in the head in block is smaller, pre cups are smaller volume, more metal in the engine block at the bases of the cylinders and oil pump boss..

Similarities to the 1.6

Same bore
Same main bearings
Pretty much same everything else

Reply #14February 24, 2011, 12:27:37 pm

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Re: .50mm over sized piston rings vs. 1.6L
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2011, 12:27:37 pm »
And, personally, I loved my first VW diesel engine....it was a 1.5 '78 Rabbit.
When I drove my first 1.6, I said, "....what a slow, cantankerous sow!"
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