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January 26, 2011, 11:42:23 am

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The way to fry glow plugs.
« on: January 26, 2011, 11:42:23 am »
So I tried going home from work one day but forgot to plug in, I think it was around 0F, maybe a bit colder.
Not a chance, the battery has been dying lately and it only shows when I try cold starting it. So I got out a charger with a 275 apm boost and I would charge on 30 amps and then switch to boost and try cranking and then back to charge etc.

Then I got this bright idea to turn it to 65 amps and run the GP's over and over.........hehe ::). After a while it was firing a little more but couldn't quite crank fast enough. Then one time I tried cranking and it didn't fire at all. So I figured I'd be nice and plug it in, blow a master heater on it and charge it.

All went good, it got warm enough that it could crank it real fast. But only one cylinder was firing so I tested the GP's which was easy since they're pimped, three were dead. I guess glowing over and over is kinda hard on 'em, oh yeah, the one good one was a month old duraterm.

I ended up getting a ride to where I had my other set of GP's and after changing 'em out and it fired right up.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
Watch: AGENDA, GRINDING AMERICA DOWN

Reply #1January 26, 2011, 06:43:12 pm

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Re: The way to fry glow plugs.
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2011, 06:43:12 pm »
Are your spares all Duratherms now?

After seeing how quickly an old plug burns out, and then using duratherms and having my manual solenoid stick on for over 30+ minutes... and they still start the car in sub-zero temps.. I won't suggest anything but. ;)

Reply #2January 26, 2011, 06:51:28 pm

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Re: The way to fry glow plugs.
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2011, 06:51:28 pm »
Are your spares all Duratherms now?

After seeing how quickly an old plug burns out, and then using duratherms and having my manual solenoid stick on for over 30+ minutes... and they still start the car in sub-zero temps.. I won't suggest anything but. ;)

Yeah, I've had 'em for a while I was just waiting for the day when I'd need 'em.......I just didn't expect to need 3 at one time haha.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
Watch: AGENDA, GRINDING AMERICA DOWN

Reply #3January 27, 2011, 12:04:50 pm

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Re: The way to fry glow plugs.
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2011, 12:04:50 pm »
are they duraTHERM or duraTERM?
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #4January 27, 2011, 01:11:38 pm

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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2011, 01:11:38 pm »
I know I spelt it as therm... But I'm pretty sure its term, lol.

My bad.

Never-the-less good plugs.

Reply #5January 27, 2011, 05:46:10 pm

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Re: The way to fry glow plugs.
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2011, 05:46:10 pm »
i just didnt want to sound like an idiot walking up to the parts counter and saying the wrong thing.. im gonna be buying 2 sets of them. one for the Datsun, and one for the Rabbit..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #6January 27, 2011, 05:51:45 pm

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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2011, 05:51:45 pm »
i just didnt want to sound like an idiot walking up to the parts counter and saying the wrong thing.. im gonna be buying 2 sets of them. one for the Datsun, and one for the Rabbit..

haha, that's always embarassing.

I got mine off of amazon, I know it's a book store but they do have lots of car parts too ;D. I think I paid just under $10 each and free shipping.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
Watch: AGENDA, GRINDING AMERICA DOWN

Reply #7January 27, 2011, 05:54:30 pm

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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2011, 05:54:30 pm »
Canadian tire.. Ya I know you guys aint got one wants $22 a plug! B.s when I can get em online for $11 and change..

Its the only way to go Kev!

Reply #8January 28, 2011, 09:07:24 am

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Re: The way to fry glow plugs.
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2011, 09:07:24 am »
duraterms get hot super fast dont they?

cause the glow plug timer on my Datsun, it lights the plugs for about 30 seconds.. but jeremy left his lit for 30 minutes and they were fine, so i should be ok, right?
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #9January 28, 2011, 09:15:37 am

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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2011, 09:15:37 am »
Yeah man they are used in aaz's with three minutes afterglow. 30s is fine. My plugs still work, but they are def a tad weaker..

Reply #10January 28, 2011, 09:17:29 am

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Re: The way to fry glow plugs.
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 09:17:29 am »
holy crap.. 3 minutes of after glow?

must be some way to warm the engine up faster..

think of the load on the alt at idle!!
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #11January 28, 2011, 11:07:21 am

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2011, 11:07:21 am »
Yeah, up to 3 minutes.. Not necessarily everytime, but on the coldest of days yes.

I have done some tests, with starting on equally cold days (-15c) one with an afterglow of about a minute and the other with just the 15 second glow and start. The afterglow had the engine cleared up and running as smooth as could be in seconds.. Where the non-afterglow test was stumbling away for a few minutes.

Reply #12January 28, 2011, 11:18:26 am

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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2011, 11:18:26 am »
Yeah, up to 3 minutes.. Not necessarily everytime, but on the coldest of days yes.

I have done some tests, with starting on equally cold days (-15c) one with an afterglow of about a minute and the other with just the 15 second glow and start. The afterglow had the engine cleared up and running as smooth as could be in seconds.. Where the non-afterglow test was stumbling away for a few minutes.

i do the same, i glow, fire, then glow again till it smooths out. usually takes about 2-5 seconds of after glow.. i got fast (8 second) plugs on a semi-pimped glow plug system.. (constant duty relay supplys voltage directly from the battery to the bus bar, like i said, half pimped)
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.