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January 16, 2011, 12:30:29 am

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Tips/Tricks for priming Older A2 style filter (non heated)
« on: January 16, 2011, 12:30:29 am »
Any tips/tricks on priming the older A2 filters that aren't heated? The bolt in the top looks far too small to pour clean fuel into, but there isn't any other orifice to fill it from that I can see.

Reply #1January 16, 2011, 12:59:06 am

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Re: Tips/Tricks for priming Older A2 style filter (non heated)
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2011, 12:59:06 am »
fill then install
vacuum the out line
get a tiny funnel from the kitchen store
or loosen and pressurize the tank vent.

I've dribbled ATF in the bolt hole in a pinch before though.

Reply #2January 16, 2011, 01:15:41 am

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Re: Tips/Tricks for priming Older A2 style filter (non heated)
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2011, 01:15:41 am »
Think an Outboard primer bulb on the out line would draw enough vacuum to suck through the in line and fill it?

Reply #3January 16, 2011, 06:56:53 am

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Re: Tips/Tricks for priming Older A2 style filter (non heated)
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2011, 06:56:53 am »
Yes, but I removed mine as it seemed to be a source for air. I have installed them with no diesel and the IP pulled it through. Ran rough for a bit, but all was well. I just fill mine pretty good now and install.

Reply #4January 16, 2011, 09:51:21 am

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Re: Tips/Tricks for priming Older A2 style filter (non heated)
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2011, 09:51:21 am »
Take out the bleed bolt and drop the whole filter into a can of diesel. Wiggle it around to get all the air out. Works great, but is of course messy. Last time I changed a filter I just put it on empty and let the IP suck it full of fuel. Didn't really take long and worked fine. I assume this is the factory procedure, as the Bentley manual says nothing about pre-filling the filter.
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Reply #5January 17, 2011, 11:59:00 am

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Re: Tips/Tricks for priming Older A2 style filter (non heated)
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2011, 11:59:00 am »
Loosen the bleeder and blow through the return line and pressurize the tank. That should push fuel to the filter and then you can close the bleeder.
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Reply #6January 17, 2011, 12:03:51 pm

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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2011, 12:03:51 pm »
Loosen the bleeder and blow through the return line and pressurize the tank. That should push fuel to the filter and then you can close the bleeder.

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Reply #7January 17, 2011, 03:24:44 pm

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Re: Tips/Tricks for priming Older A2 style filter (non heated)
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2011, 03:24:44 pm »
Blowing through won't work, as if I'm not mistaken diesel tanks are vented to atmosphere.. Through a tube that goes up to the filler neck.

Reply #8January 17, 2011, 08:08:56 pm

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Re: Tips/Tricks for priming Older A2 style filter (non heated)
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2011, 08:08:56 pm »
Blowing through won't work, as if I'm not mistaken diesel tanks are vented to atmosphere.. Through a tube that goes up to the filler neck.

I've done it on my rabbit, it has a small vent line that runs from the tank up to the........uh, hefty beam thing that the bumper bolts to, forgot what it's called.

Anyways I could blow harder than that could vent so the tank pressurized. Early MK2 fuel filters are the same deal only not the spin on type.
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Reply #9January 17, 2011, 09:02:08 pm

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Re: Tips/Tricks for priming Older A2 style filter (non heated)
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2011, 09:02:08 pm »
interesting, I figured it would take a little more than whatever our lungs can push to push fuel from the tank ;)

Reply #10January 18, 2011, 02:50:19 am

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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2011, 02:50:19 am »
I got a marine primer bulb at NAPA. It has 5/16" ends and works great. no mess.
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Reply #11January 19, 2011, 10:27:01 am

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Re: Tips/Tricks for priming Older A2 style filter (non heated)
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2011, 10:27:01 am »
I got a marine primer bulb at NAPA. It has 5/16" ends and works great. no mess.

i hate those primer bulbs. ive had soo many of those in the last 5 years cause me problems.. the valves stick closed in them all the time..

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Reply #12January 19, 2011, 10:30:41 am

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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2011, 10:30:41 am »
I have a diesel marine grade primer ball too. Right before the filter on the strut tower. Nice easy location, 4 good pumps fills the filter and pump

Reply #13January 20, 2011, 11:18:29 am

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Re: Tips/Tricks for priming Older A2 style filter (non heated)
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2011, 11:18:29 am »
The primer bulbs that I've gotten have failed when the valves stay open. Maybe we could trade?  My SVO system has a fair amount of resistance so I installed an electric fuel pump between the filter and IP. When I change a filter, I let it rattle away until primed then off I go.
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Reply #14January 20, 2011, 03:31:10 pm

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Re: Tips/Tricks for priming Older A2 style filter (non heated)
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2011, 03:31:10 pm »
I would run an electric helper pump in a heart-beat if they were cheap around here...

They are common on most small outboards.. unusual for them to fail :s