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January 15, 2011, 04:32:53 pm

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gasser and diesel throttle cables differnt lengths?
« on: January 15, 2011, 04:32:53 pm »
I am in the middle of swapping a mk2 diesel in to my mk1 that originally had the gasser. The throttle cables seem to be a different length?? The gasser one seems to be longer.. Wuhoh.

What can I do to remedy this?



Reply #1January 15, 2011, 04:45:18 pm

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Re: gasser and diesel throttle cables differnt lengths?
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2011, 04:45:18 pm »
gasser cable should be shorter..

install a diesel T cable.. problem solved.
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Reply #2January 15, 2011, 06:54:23 pm

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Re: gasser and diesel throttle cables differnt lengths?
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2011, 06:54:23 pm »
k3vo! I made up a little bracket to make the slack in the cable be taken up.

Diesel T cable? What is this?

NEW QUESTION

did an mk1 ever come equipped with a T3 turbo'd TD engine?

Mk1 and Mk2 downpipes from the turbo itself must be different... but not by much sadly. There is like an inch to make it work.. crapp

Reply #3January 15, 2011, 06:59:43 pm

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Re: gasser and diesel throttle cables differnt lengths?
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2011, 06:59:43 pm »
pretty positive that mk1s did come with T3 turbos.. i have a mk1 T3 downpipe..

diesel T cable = diesel throttle cable..

gasser throttle cables had nuts to adjust them, diesels had a clip.

too bad you wernt closer, ive got a PILE of mk1 diesel t-cables.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #4January 19, 2011, 10:49:10 pm

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Re: gasser and diesel throttle cables differnt lengths?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2011, 10:49:10 pm »


this is the problem I ran into.  It's not the length, but how the end attaches that is the problem.  best to just get the diesel cable if you have it.  the bottom cable is the gasser obviously, and I was putting a mk1 diesel into a mk2
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Reply #5January 19, 2011, 11:26:49 pm

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Re: gasser and diesel throttle cables differnt lengths?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 11:26:49 pm »
Well I swapped from a 91 in to an 84 and the pump ends were identical. The problem was the cable being too long from the stop to the throttle lever..

Reply #6January 20, 2011, 12:11:33 am

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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2011, 12:11:33 am »
swapping a mk2 diesel in to my mk1 that originally had the gasser. .


its a gasser setup....... ;D.  you need da deezul cabel
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Reply #7January 20, 2011, 09:10:03 am

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Re: gasser and diesel throttle cables differnt lengths?
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2011, 09:10:03 am »
just put the right throttle cable on it yo..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #8January 20, 2011, 10:55:51 am

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Re: gasser and diesel throttle cables differnt lengths?
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2011, 10:55:51 am »
doooooooooood, on the contrary. I have been using the gasser cable since Saturday, the stop just needed to be lengthened further back from the pump arm. No biggy, love to engineer stuff ;)

The mk1 Jetta CIS equipped (not sure for mk1 carb'd vehicles), and mk2 Jetta digi equipped gassers have the same end as we require on our diesel pumps.

Reply #9January 20, 2011, 04:19:38 pm

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Re: gasser and diesel throttle cables differnt lengths?
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2011, 04:19:38 pm »


this is the problem I ran into.  It's not the length, but how the end attaches that is the problem.  best to just get the diesel cable if you have it.  the bottom cable is the gasser obviously, and I was putting a mk1 diesel into a mk2

all my gasser cables have a ball end, crimped on, not the socket with the clip around it..

none of my gasser throttle cables are even close to the diesel cables.

im thinking someone put a diesel cable on your gasser, because the gasser throttle bodys have the ball connection, but its usually not used for the throttle cable, its usually for cruise control.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #10January 20, 2011, 06:45:41 pm

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Re: gasser and diesel throttle cables differnt lengths?
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2011, 06:45:41 pm »

All my cars (an 81 diesel, two 84 gas 1.7, 90 gas 1.8, two 91 diesels, and a 94 2.0) have the top throttle cable in the quoted picture. I don't think somebody swapped out the cables on all 4 of the gasser cars i have in my driveway ;)

Reply #11January 20, 2011, 09:08:04 pm

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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2011, 09:08:04 pm »
hate to say it, but the bottom cable in that picture above was in a 89 pirelli jetta.  this one.  It was a 1.8 RD motor. 


the bottom cable is definitely a gasser one..... ;D  but hey; me and kevin can go on like this forever.  We're proud oregonians :P
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Reply #12January 20, 2011, 09:28:57 pm

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Re: gasser and diesel throttle cables differnt lengths?
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2011, 09:28:57 pm »
thats whaaack.

Seriously, all Gassers I have seen or done anything with have been the top cable.

Maybe its a Canada thing?

Ahh the RD, 9.1 CR and on CIS-E.. Could be why, however my two gas mk1's are CIS as well..

Did you swap out that RD for a Diesel?

Reply #13January 21, 2011, 12:40:07 am

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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2011, 12:40:07 am »
thats whaaack.   No its not

Seriously, all Gassers I have seen or done anything with have been the top cable.  How many have you seen other than those 4 ;D

Maybe its a Canada thing?   lots of things are canada things eh...but not in this case

Ahh the RD, 9.1 CR and on CIS-E.. Could be why, however my two gas mk1's are CIS as well..
actually, the rd was a high compression motor.  it was 10.5:1.  Had a blast with it for about an hour and a half till it grenaded.

Did you swap out that RD for a Diesel?
maybe...
best thing that ever happened to that car
http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=19324.0


location:  ashland, oregon US

Reply #14January 21, 2011, 12:06:40 pm

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Re: gasser and diesel throttle cables differnt lengths?
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2011, 12:06:40 pm »
thats whaaack.

Seriously, all Gassers I have seen or done anything with have been the top cable.

Maybe its a Canada thing?

Ahh the RD, 9.1 CR and on CIS-E.. Could be why, however my two gas mk1's are CIS as well..

Did you swap out that RD for a Diesel?

the bottom cable is a gasser cable, the top one is diesel.

both my 92 jettas (8v and 16v), 85 GTI, 80 Rabbit, 86 golf, 85 golf, and my buddies gassers all have the bottom cable.

and oh yea, RD was 10:1 comp. basically the same engine as what was in my 85 GTI. it has an HT.
the CIS-E on them is so awesome.. and they were the first engines that got VWs knock sensing ignition system.
105 hp factory..

Jeremy, you basically have WEIRD cars.. or canadians just got the superior throttle cable setup. cause if you are missing the little spring retaining clip for the gasser cable, you might as well plan on popping your hood every day to re-connect the throttle cable..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

 

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