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#45
by
Mark(The Miser)UK
on 04 Dec, 2010 17:40
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I was searching through some forums looking for a good walkthrough for creating a push button glowplug setup, anyone please have a safer way to do it, i have seen some scary walkthroughs.
Just take the same relay, put it in the engine bay near the fuel filter/bulkhead
Run new wires from it:
Big stuff from plugs to relay and up to battery.
Forget all the rest except a wire from a spare dash board switch, which is hot wired to ignition.
Forget wire to water temp sensor, or to starter/tach.
In 'off' position, car wont start, and is an anti theft device.
In 'on' position car will start with ignition, and stay on for full time of in built timer; except you can turn them off early by flicking switch.
Additional time can be added by flicking switch...
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#46
by
8v-of-fury
on 05 Dec, 2010 16:22
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Go back to Vince Waldon's site, he also has a great write up for the manual glowplugs. It ensures full available voltage to the plugs, and keeping all that voltage under the hood where it belongs lol.
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#47
by
damac
on 05 Dec, 2010 17:00
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I did the pimping of my glowplugs and put a led in the dash that shows when the power is hitting them vs. the in dash light.
I was going to put a manual switch in but left the stock wiring in place and let it be. Only because I did not read about people having issues with these cars controllers sticking on and burning up all the plugs?
I know on my 1985 f250 diesel, one of the first things suggested when I got the truck is to install a push button because the controllers were expensive and liked to stick on and burn everything up. Also relayed all the headlights and running lights because they liked to catch fire at the headlight switch that had too much power going through them.
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#48
by
jaysen71581
on 06 Dec, 2010 14:15
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I read over the pimp your glowplugs article and liked everything i saw and it all made sense to me is a wire on the relay that says "to original glowplug harness" what wire is that, the one that went to the glowplug bar?
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#49
by
Vincent Waldon
on 06 Dec, 2010 14:21
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Yup.
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#50
by
jaysen71581
on 06 Dec, 2010 15:00
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I just reread your article and saw that lol... It sucks having the ADD/ADHD as an adult lol... Awsome write up, i will be heading to the parts store tomorrow and doing the harness....
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#51
by
Vincent Waldon
on 06 Dec, 2010 15:04
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No worries at all.
BTW, the original write-up used long glass fuses.. I like 'em because you can see from a mile away if they are blown... but most auto parts shops will carry the more standard ATO fuse block that takes the same fuses as the ones under your dash. That system works well too, and there are some advantages to using the same style of fuse in both places.
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#52
by
jaysen71581
on 08 Dec, 2010 18:02
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With me doing this can i just unplug the gp harness and remove it.
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#53
by
jaysen71581
on 10 Dec, 2010 05:30
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Finished up the "pimping the glowplug harness" last night, i like it alot i was able to test and get to all of them, i now know that i am getting everythign i need, i think i may have a bad glowplug or 4... Autolite trash, after i did the mod and tested everything i pushed my button and heard the solenoid held the button for 15 seconds and tried to start it but it just kept cranking, next step is to test the glowplugs individually, my heater blower motor mysteriously stopped working last night as well and i had some buzzer in the car going off with the key off, i pulled the relay and it was all rusted and crap, im not a bright man but know that is bad, i am truely tired of this hack job harness and am ready to just get another uncut harness....
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#54
by
damac
on 10 Dec, 2010 14:42
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are autolite plugs considered crap for this application as well?
they seem to pose a bad problem for my old 85 f250 as well, widely suggested to get the name brand motocraft. what do you know i did that with the manual switch almost a year ago, all is well
when i got the truck from another party, half the plugs were burnt out, and i had to extract 4 of them as they wouldn't turn out. my goodness that was 2 days of hell. they were swollen and those glowplugs have no strength when twisted, they will snap right off and leave chunks in your engine and possibly fall down into it!
i had to spend forever using pbblaster, heat and different methods to turn the glowplugs in/out until i could get past the threads. then i was able to grab onto the bodies and rig a pry bar that i could impact with a hammer one strike at a time, inline with the angle the glowplugs went in. in that way they were strong and i eventually got them all out.
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#55
by
Vincent Waldon
on 10 Dec, 2010 14:46
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are autolite plugs considered crap for this application as well?
Uber-crap... some folks have had 'em last a matter of minutes.
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#56
by
jaysen71581
on 11 Dec, 2010 16:23
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How are the Bosch glowplugs? What would you recommend?
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#57
by
jaysen71581
on 12 Dec, 2010 09:00
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Big update today, i put an Ohms meter to the glowplugs to test that and found 2 were open and had no resistance what so ever, im pretty sure it wont start with 2 bad plugs....
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#58
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 12 Dec, 2010 09:06
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my engine used to start with 1 working glow plug. but not if it was colder than like 40* outside..
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#59
by
jaysen71581
on 12 Dec, 2010 20:24
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I have to wait till tomorrow to pick up my new glowplugs apparently Napa is closed on sundays and none of the chain stores sell them.... Ill keep ya posted..