Injector Question

[jaysen71581]

Here is what i see right now this is everything as the car is sitting in the garage at "alleged" TDC


Ears Up !!!

[Toby]

Have you checked to make sure that the Woodruff key that aligns the IP shaft and sprocket is there and intact? Or you could just check the timing with the dial indicator tool.

[jaysen71581]

Woodruff key is present and accounted for.. I could but i dont have access to it but i can get one...

[jaysen71581]

All 4 are brand new autolite plugs.

[Vincent Waldon]

Groovy.  Next step:  are your new glowplugs getting a solid 10-12 volts when the key is first turned to "on" ?

[Mark(The Miser)UK]

That all looks hunky dorey, except there's one strange thing.
Is there not a mark on the outer face of the pump sprocket?
Without going outside 'cus it's too cold, why do I have a funny feeling that the mark is normally on the other side? Is there one 180 degrees away?
H'mm I'll have to go out to check.
Why do you think that timing is set to 6 degrees before TDC? Are you using a strobe light?

[jaysen71581]

In the first pic its kinda hard to see but the mark is on the inner side of the sprocket, ill check the voltage of the glowplugs, i know i have power because i used a testlight.

[jaysen71581]

I think we maybe on to something with the wiring, the PO had completely hacked the glowplug harness bad, ill check the voltage and post my findings, i had planned on getting another GP harness its just tough finding one unmolested..

[Mark(The Miser)UK]

In the first pic its kinda hard to see but the mark is on the inner side of the sprocket, ill check the voltage of the glowplugs, i know i have power because i used a testlight.

Just been out to check. On at least one of my pumps, timing mark is on same spot front and back. Pulley webbing is set deeper looking from front than back. [this might matter if woodruff key is off set.I can't remember.[It's on the end of the pump spindle locking pulley to spindle]

[jaysen71581]

So we tested the glowplugs with a volt meter and it was at 12volts for about 3 seconds then went up to like 13-14 because the plugs cut out, next thing we did was gave it a quick shot of ether and low and behold the damn thing ran, and well, so all that helped with the timing you guys rock because that thing idled perfectly and sounded great.. Now i just need to figure out what to do about my glowplugs not staying on.

[Toby]

Try pulling the lead off of the PG temp sensor. That should give you max GP on time.

[jaysen71581]

The only wires i have hooked are the IP solenoid, the GP wire and the wire that goes to the starter, nothing else is hooked up to any sensor.

[R.O.R-2.0]

take a wire about 2 feet long, atleast 14ga wire. and touch it to the battery + and the other end to the bus bar on the glow plugs..

what year is your car? newer mk1, and mk2 cars har 8 second plugs, older mk1 cars had 16 second plugs..

that should heat up your glow plugs enough to make it run without the use of ether.. its bad for vw diesels..

another thing.. autolite glow plugs are said to be super sketchy about the quality of their products. and are said to take longer and longer to warm up as they age.. just a warning..

[jaysen71581]

The cars an '84, the motors an '85 1.6 td but the harness is off an '84 na diesel. Maybe i could just do a push button for the glowplugs and bypass the hackjob harness,

[jaysen71581]

I was searching through some forums looking for a good walkthrough for creating a push button glowplug setup, anyone please have a safer way to do it, i have seen some scary walkthroughs.