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November 11, 2010, 07:55:49 pm

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self lubricating starter bushing
« on: November 11, 2010, 07:55:49 pm »
Getting cold many threads of hard starting. First starter I put in I didn't use grease and it wore fast. Next I put way too much*not hard to do* and couldn't get the starter in and it was cold as could be outside.
The solution: self lubricating starter bushing.
This trick an old timer showed me that I am passing it along. Bushings made of bronze are semi permeable. Take your bushing in between thumb and index finger, lift index finger, hold bushing on with the other hand, fill the bushing with a good oil lubricant until a reverse meniscus is achieved, quickly smash your index finger down onto the oil meniscus = hydraulic pressure...this should make the bushing "sweat" for a split second then it will disappear. That is the oil going through the little holes all through the bronze to come out when needed. No more fighting grease and starters to get in the cold or worn too fast bushings from taking all the grease out to make it work.
Might upload pics if interest in seeing it ;)
« Last Edit: November 11, 2010, 07:57:51 pm by theman53 »



Reply #1November 12, 2010, 12:20:42 am

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Re: self lubricating starter bushing
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2010, 12:20:42 am »
You mean it'll push it all the way through and out the outside of the bushing :o. I new they were kinda porous but I didn't know the holes were that big :D. Maybe I'll try it next time. You use regular engine oil?
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I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
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Reply #2November 12, 2010, 06:41:45 am

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Re: self lubricating starter bushing
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2010, 06:41:45 am »
I use lube it all. It is a moly lubricant and lasts longer than anything else I have used on door hinges, locks, sliders,etc.

I got some good pics I will post when I am done hunting today, but yepper it forces it to go through and stay inside the holes in the bushing. It is kind of amazing how much oil is lost in the process.

Reply #3November 12, 2010, 03:41:48 pm

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Re: self lubricating starter bushing
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2010, 03:41:48 pm »
The Lube

clean no oil

Trying to get the pic full of oil before it runs out

This is cool I actually got a pic of the oil coming through, look close all that oil that is shimmery right in the center is coming through I didn't spill it:D you can really tell down by my thumb it looks bubbley.


What is actually happening is the oil is being hydraulically pushed through the pores of the bronze/brass. Then is stays there so it is self lubing the rest of its life. No need to grease, but you still can if you want.

I should be a hand model ;D








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Reply #4November 12, 2010, 08:21:21 pm

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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2010, 08:21:21 pm »
Diesel mechanics hands aren't supposed to be that clean :P
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
Watch: AGENDA, GRINDING AMERICA DOWN

Reply #5November 13, 2010, 09:10:51 am

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Re: self lubricating starter bushing
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2010, 09:10:51 am »
You were doing that in the kitchen? :o

That's a neat trick, I will have to try it next time
Tyler

Reply #6December 05, 2012, 09:32:28 am

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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2012, 09:32:28 am »
I am bumping this and going to sticky it to the top. Seems we had some threads on starters lately and I think this is great. Some probably don't even lube the bushing and that is why the starter wears out. Or like me put too much grease in and the starter won't go into the hole.

Reply #7December 05, 2012, 11:06:47 am

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Re: self lubricating starter bushing
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2012, 11:06:47 am »
Thanks for the bump! How about using grease instead of oil before squeeze?

Reply #8December 05, 2012, 11:23:20 am

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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2012, 11:23:20 am »
try it, I don't know how thick of lube you can go until it won't go through the pores of the alloy.

Reply #9December 05, 2012, 11:36:05 am

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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2012, 11:36:05 am »
cool magic trick
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Reply #10December 05, 2012, 11:46:43 am

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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2012, 11:46:43 am »
cool magic trick

and beautiful hands.

Reply #11December 05, 2012, 12:49:41 pm

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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2012, 12:49:41 pm »
cool magic trick

and beautiful hands.

yeah really well groomed, he must moisturize, those cuticles are magnificent.  they really draw your attention in, so much that i almost missed the cocks on the rugs.
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Reply #12December 05, 2012, 12:52:35 pm

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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2012, 12:52:35 pm »
cool magic trick

and beautiful hands.

yeah really well groomed, he must moisturize, those cuticles are magnificent.  they really draw your attention in, so much that i almost missed the cocks on the rugs.

oohh ahhhh

Reply #13December 05, 2012, 10:19:46 pm

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Re: self lubricating starter bushing
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2012, 10:19:46 pm »
Not a Hand Model, you would flip if you knew what they spend on their nails and such.  Probably a few cars worth of parts.  Thanks for the tip though. 

Reply #14December 06, 2012, 10:54:12 pm

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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2012, 10:54:12 pm »
Yea oilite bushing,ask your oldtimer pal bout them :)
all metal is porous...well not all i guess but for what we are workin with

clean a con rod in a hot tank so its spotless,then take a can of oil with an inch or so of oil in it.
put the rod standing up and come back a few days later and the top of the rod wil be wet with oil.
oh feel free to use some linkite,or zmax as it is more commonly called.soak yer parts in it before assembly.feel free to stil use your normal assembly lubes also
get that dude an old guys rule tshirt at summit!
Throttle cables ftw