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Reply #15November 09, 2010, 03:03:25 pm

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Re: So i bought a little gizmo today...
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2010, 03:03:25 pm »
I would love to have a cooler running engine. Let me know your findings. Not that I have 200 to give to the cause, but maybe something to save for... More stupid gear aquisition syndrome.

Reply #16November 09, 2010, 05:38:50 pm

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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2010, 05:38:50 pm »
Isn't a "high octane" fuel exactly the wrong thing to introduce into a diesel engine? Octane is a measure of compression-combustion resistance... maybe the wrong term. Is there a 12V connection on this thing, or is the electrostatic charge generated spontaneously? Dissimilar metals, or airflow-induced, something like that maybe... It's certainly interesting, but I want to see results on an engine that's not a fresh rebuild, and so changing physically as you drive it...
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Reply #17November 09, 2010, 07:51:43 pm

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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2010, 07:51:43 pm »
Does the maker have a website with more info?
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Reply #18November 09, 2010, 11:55:55 pm

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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2010, 11:55:55 pm »
No other lines draining to block, and no 12v supply, i believe it runs off disimilar metals and the airflow thing. I dont think a high octane fuel is bad for the engine or opposite of what you want. I understand diesel does not even refer to octane rating, however if im not mistaken you can run diesels on some high octane fuels such as jet fuel. The high octane increases the length or time the fuel can burn for increasing combustion pressures. More pressure more power, more power less fuel consumption for the same amount of work.

And no there is no more info at this current time, he is supposed to come by with a CD this week sometime.

Reply #19November 10, 2010, 06:44:18 am

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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2010, 06:44:18 am »
No other lines draining to block, and no 12v supply, i believe it runs off disimilar metals and the airflow thing. I dont think a high octane fuel is bad for the engine or opposite of what you want. I understand diesel does not even refer to octane rating, however if im not mistaken you can run diesels on some high octane fuels such as jet fuel. The high octane increases the length or time the fuel can burn for increasing combustion pressures. More pressure more power, more power less fuel consumption for the same amount of work.

And no there is no more info at this current time, he is supposed to come by with a CD this week sometime.

I thought longer burn of same fuel, leads to lower peak pressures, and lower peak temperatures. This can be achieved by larger  gobbets of fuel in the turbulent chamber. This is achieved by lowering injection pressures, for any given nozzle [generally]. This is a good thing as it leads to higher average pressure, and more work done.

 Higher chamber pressures, are when approaching detonation. Detonation is most efficient release of energy. Alas increased heat losses, stresses on engine etc mean that it is not  best for piston engines, but more for caloriometers... I am open to correction on this.... ;D
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Reply #20November 10, 2010, 07:30:10 am

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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2010, 07:30:10 am »
Barnum was right...

Electrostatics indeed

I've a bunch of power resistors here

And some polarisation magnets that aligne the molecule in the fuel system increasing laminar flow, mass ionisation and releasing free radicals to ensure your chakras are 100% groovy.

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Reply #21November 10, 2010, 07:40:27 am

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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2010, 07:40:27 am »
And some polarisation magnets that aligne the molecule in the fuel system increasing laminar flow, mass ionisation and releasing free radicals to ensure your chakras are 100% groovy.

 ::)

Isn't that similar to how the turbo encabulator works? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVZ8Ko-nss4

(That's not a joke at the OP, I'm curious to see how this gizmo turns out!)

enough boost is when you have 3 dimple marks in the hood from the valve cover nuts..  ;D

Reply #22November 10, 2010, 01:17:37 pm

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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2010, 01:17:37 pm »
well im not gonna try and correct anyone and im not going to give anymore information, because i would be just making *** up at this point. All i know is my EGT's still can get excessive but seems to be tamed down a noticeable difference between 1-200 degrees. Once the engine is broken in, i will make a comparison with and without the gizmo in place.


Reply #23November 10, 2010, 02:22:45 pm

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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2010, 02:22:45 pm »
I'm not doubting that you have seen an effect, but I doubt that it is anyway due to this device.

You'd have thought that with all the millions spent on R&D by fuel companies, oil companies and motor companies that this device and all the other wonder cures would have been implemented in every car built.

Reply #24November 10, 2010, 02:57:05 pm

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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2010, 02:57:05 pm »
I'm not doubting that you have seen an effect, but I doubt that it is anyway due to this device.

You'd have thought that with all the millions spent on R&D by fuel companies, oil companies and motor companies that this device and all the other wonder cures would have been implemented in every car built.

I think the oil chaps would buy up anything that actually worked, and bury it under Hogwarts ;D
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Reply #25November 11, 2010, 05:51:19 am

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Re: So i bought a little gizmo today...
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2010, 05:51:19 am »

Isn't that similar to how the turbo encabulator works? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVZ8Ko-nss4


Completely utterly totally awesome.

I think this little doohickey is total BS.
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Reply #26November 11, 2010, 06:11:05 am

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Re: So i bought a little gizmo today...
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2010, 06:11:05 am »
No other lines draining to block, and no 12v supply, i believe it runs off disimilar metals and the airflow thing. I dont think a high octane fuel is bad for the engine or opposite of what you want. I understand diesel does not even refer to octane rating, however if im not mistaken you can run diesels on some high octane fuels such as jet fuel. The high octane increases the length or time the fuel can burn for increasing combustion pressures. More pressure more power, more power less fuel consumption for the same amount of work.

And no there is no more info at this current time, he is supposed to come by with a CD this week sometime.

jet fuel is very close to diesel.. sootier, and a higher CETANE rating IIRC.. my boss told me all about it once..

i ran it in a couple diesel powered pieces up in alaska. definitely smells different..

(walk out of my shop, take a right, go 20 steps, and theres as much A/V gas and Jet fuel as anyone could want..

i had a 9.9 hp mercury that would plane out a 16ft skiff.. (nobody knew the the carb wasnt correct) me and Jesse built the carb for it. he had jet drills and everything.. even ported the intake when we had it apart, took the rev limiter out.. that engine RIPPED..
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Reply #27November 11, 2010, 07:14:36 pm

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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2010, 07:14:36 pm »
HOGWARTS??????
You mean that place ACTUALLY exists?
The mask and the shot(s) are actually an IQ test. If you are wearing or circulating, you just failed the test. I can't feel sorry for you.

Reply #28November 11, 2010, 09:56:02 pm

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Re: So i bought a little gizmo today...
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2010, 09:56:02 pm »
Barnum was right...

Electrostatics indeed

I've a bunch of power resistors here

And some polarisation magnets that aligne the molecule in the fuel system increasing laminar flow, mass ionisation and releasing free radicals to ensure your chakras are 100% groovy.

 ::)

Well done Reg!

If this "gizmo" turned oil into "high octane fuels" without any energy introduction we wouldn't have oil refineries, just a series of giant gizmos.

Are you guys serious? Do you all have "electric supecharger" fans on your intakes?

Reply #29November 11, 2010, 10:56:51 pm

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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2010, 10:56:51 pm »
First off its not just oil, its a mixture off all the gases emitted from the crankcase some of which generated by the combustion process. The structure inside would certainly stirr up and disrupt flow, and it is very plausible that it could create a cleaner burn of the vented vapours rather than burning up poorly atomized vapours. Im no genius but the mechanics behind what was explained to me seems quite possible, and when i have heard from a very reputable mechanic that he has seen significant gains and installs them on every vehicle he owns, im going to trust him. Ive noticed an immediate difference in cooler EGT's, and have not seen any further difference since the install indicating that my differences are not likely from breaking in the engine as the engine still isnt even broken in with only 500km on it.

Sometimes people come up with things that work. Its a lengthy process to have a product not only be invented but also proven and modified to come up with the final piece. Even once the final product is made it takes time to get the patent and extremely difficult to write a patent without error inorder for it to pass. Once the product is produced i understand that it can be extremely difficult to get people to purchase a product that most people dont understand. and im going to go out on a limb and say that many of the closed minded individuals mocking the idea of new technology dont understand quantum physics and these individuals probably think they know alot more than they do.

Lets take one for example Mystery, were you not the one who cursed my life because i was questioning venting my crankcase to atmosphere? Did you know that every dodge cummins truck ive seen is vented to atmosphere from the factory? So if you are going to compare a "gizmo" , which nobody here understands at this time, to a oil refinery i take it you understand the process of a refinery down to the molecular level? If this is what you are implying maybe you could fill us in so some of us that dont understand can relate?

Lets try and keep everyones opinions out of this unless they have some fact to contribute i would like to figure out how this thing works dont clutter up the tech.