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#15
by
Baron VonZeppelin
on 02 Oct, 2010 23:29
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Take the muffler off if you can, its probably full of fuel.
Might as well leave it off if it comes off, for now.
Thats assuming you have a muffler on it.
It seems like it "should" start on its own now - with starter.
If you have to kill (pardon the term) the engine again from runaway - try to hit 2nd or 3rd or 4th instead of 1st. Won't be so abrupt and less likely to break a motor mount.
Not banging on ya - when you get in that position all of a sudden you do what you gotta do - as quick as possible to shut it down.
At least you made it through the window before it was too late.
Sounds like a helluva day, and a helluva helper.
(hurter? / helper? - tomato/tomatoe)
I'da took him for a drive somewhere "special" afterwards - and shot him.
I'd also have the key on in run position, before i let the gears engage, if you tow it again.
If its a Mk1 engine or Mk1 intake/breather set-up, i'd mop out the breather box if it needs it.
Good luck to you man.
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#16
by
RustyToy
on 03 Oct, 2010 12:04
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well, engine turned over just fine byhand. Chaged the oil,topped off the coolant and pushed it out of the garage.
Hooked on the chain and away we went! 100 yards down the road we're running.
un hook chain and take off under her own power. 1st,2,nd,3rd,4th. according to the GPS we're running 58 mph. After about 1.5 miles the white smoke is clearing and seeing more black smoke from the tailpipe.
At 3 miles turn around and head back. pulling strong through the gears. that's encouraging! Pass my chase truck and boogy on. Temp guage coming up, smelling a bit of coolant. glance in the mirror reveals a trace of black smoke.
coming into the drive start to notice some smoke coming from under the hood. pull up and park. rollin smoke from the hood.
Pop the hoodand the overflow tank is spraying hot molten lava ( ok, it was just antifreeze ) and oil everywhere. Not coming from the valve cover gasket this time. Before I left out I pulled the tube running from the valve cover to the intake and replaced it with a short piece of hose pointed at the firewall. The firewall is covered in oil. Dipstick reveals i have about 1 quart of oil left in the engine.
Now, I now hearby officially redeclare time of death at 12:58Pm Oct 3,2010.
I'm moving in 2 weeks so the rebuild will have to wait till after I get settled into the new place. Gives me a little bit of time to gather parts and weigh my options. I guess I'll just have to drive the Benz to work for a month or so.
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#17
by
motomike33y
on 03 Oct, 2010 17:52
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you have to admire an engine that will run after all that.
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#18
by
8v-of-fury
on 03 Oct, 2010 20:11
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Pop the hoodand the overflow tank is spraying hot molten lava ( ok, it was just antifreeze ) and oil everywhere. Not coming from the valve cover gasket this time. Before I left out I pulled the tube running from the valve cover to the intake and replaced it with a short piece of hose pointed at the firewall. The firewall is covered in oil. Dipstick reveals i have about 1 quart of oil left in the engine.
So you blew a HG, no big deal fix it up with $70. $150 if you have to shave a few thou of the head.
If you still see oil on the dipstick then you have plenty oil in the engine, and it wasn't run dry. Its when you see no oil on the stick do you start to worry. Crosshatch on the stick accounts for like quart and half or something doesn't it? so bottom of the cross, your a 3/4 quart low.. no?
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#19
by
RustyToy
on 04 Oct, 2010 16:29
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So you blew a HG, no big deal fix it up with $70. $150 if you have to shave a few thou of the head.
If you still see oil on the dipstick then you have plenty oil in the engine, and it wasn't run dry. Its when you see no oil on the stick do you start to worry. Crosshatch on the stick accounts for like quart and half or something doesn't it? so bottom of the cross, your a 3/4 quart low.. no?
Yeah, um....I jut got finished doing that. Thats what got this thread started. I've got a grand total of about 6.5 miles on a new HG & Timing belt.
The oil is not on the crosshatch. There is about 1/16th inch of oil on the stick. I feel had I driven another 1/4 mile there would be none on the dipstick at all.
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#20
by
8v-of-fury
on 04 Oct, 2010 18:34
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If there is still oil on the stick then you need not worry young gwasshoppah. Oil on the stick means you were a quart and some low, not empty.
seems you need a new hg though if the coolant bottle was bubbling over?? Was it over heating? or just bubbling over?
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#21
by
RustyToy
on 04 Oct, 2010 18:43
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It was definitely overheating. That was why I turned around on my test drive. Normal position on my car after nearly 5000 miles for the temp guage is/was just a hair to the left of the warning light. On this particular trip it was pegging when I pulled in the drive.
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#22
by
Turftech
on 04 Oct, 2010 18:47
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Sorry to hear it. I was kinda hoping I was wrong about the TOD... They are a fun rebuild though. And like the other guys with far more VW knowledge than me say, they are tough to thoroughly kill! Personally, if the car is a keeper, I'd probably just find a decent runner at a wrecker and yank the engine/transaxle and swap the works. Much less work.
Cheers!
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#23
by
Baron VonZeppelin
on 04 Oct, 2010 21:01
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I wouldn't be inclined to do the HG again either.
That thing probably needs a full re-ring at bare minimum.
When they just miss the bottom of the dipstick, takes about 2 quarts to get back right.
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#24
by
RustyToy
on 07 Oct, 2010 16:40
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Well, I just can't stand it anymore. Saturday mornin I'm gonna tear it back apart. I'm going to order a new HG and some studs. The car was running way too good before the HG went. All I can think is that something didn't quite go according to my grand scheme when it went together. something. no idea what, but sumthin aint right in the cookie jar.
Before you even say it, yes...I need to buy a Bentley manual. I know that, and I will.
But I need some specs before it gets here. Has anybody got (and willing to share) a diagram indicating head bolt torque sequence?
which bolt when kinda thing. Both for loosening as well as tightening. If so, that would be fantastic!
I figure I was putting it off till I got moved in a couple of weeks, thing is though it's gotta be trailered to the new place anyhow. so if I can possible fix it between now and then thats all the better. I'd still rather be driving the Golf than the Benz anyhow.
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#25
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 08 Oct, 2010 23:59
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do a comp test before you pull it apart. but i would bore it and go see our friend prothe for some cheap pistons.
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#26
by
theman53
on 09 Oct, 2010 04:33
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I think...this is from memory but I did it enough times I think this is it. The torque sequence for the head.
10 4 2 6 8
7 3 1 5 9
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#27
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 09 Oct, 2010 12:36
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its an x pattern IIRC
9 3 1 6 8
7 5 2 4 10
but i could be wrong..