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July 18, 2010, 10:06:15 am

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Compound questions???
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ok, so, would a K24 be any good as a low pressure turbo with a VNT17 as the HP turbo? or are they too similarly sized to be any good in a compound set?

Reply #1July 18, 2010, 10:12:17 am

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Re: Compound questions???
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2010, 10:12:17 am »
KKK turbos are very inefficient, its best to avoid them in any situation.

Reply #2July 18, 2010, 10:20:26 am

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Re: Compound questions???
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010, 10:20:26 am »
ok, well i didnt ask for you to tell me they are inefficient. i could care less if they are or not. but if i can run it with the turbo i got, and have a little more fun, im down for it!

Reply #3July 18, 2010, 10:21:45 am

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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2010, 10:21:45 am »
Ok, well you asked "would a K24 be any good as a low pressure turbo" and I gave you the correct response, avoidance. Piss off child.

Reply #4July 18, 2010, 10:59:45 am

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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2010, 10:59:45 am »
anyone have any worth-while info as to why i should or should not use a K24 as a LP turbo and a GT17 as a HP turbo?

Reply #5July 18, 2010, 11:51:39 am

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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2010, 11:51:39 am »
 ::) I think you two should kiss and make up. oh, and gimme the vnt-17, I've got an engine i wanna try to exploderate. :D
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Reply #6July 18, 2010, 01:59:45 pm

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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2010, 01:59:45 pm »
Put it on and see how it works.
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Reply #7July 18, 2010, 02:03:21 pm

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Re: Compound questions???
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2010, 02:03:21 pm »
so if i have the VNT with 20 psi, and the K24 set up with a stock WG setting of 8 psi? what am i looking at for a total pressure? enough to blow the head off my engine?

Reply #8July 18, 2010, 02:28:50 pm

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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2010, 02:28:50 pm »
so if i have the VNT with 20 psi, and the K24 set up with a stock WG setting of 8 psi? what am i looking at for a total pressure? enough to blow the head off my engine?

= (20+14.7)/14.7 * (8+14.7)/14.7 * 14.7
= 2.36 * 1.54 * 14.7
= 53.4psi

I'll let you decide whether or not that's enough boost ;)

enough boost is when you have 3 dimple marks in the hood from the valve cover nuts..  ;D

Reply #9July 18, 2010, 02:34:00 pm

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If you take the boost reading form the intake manifold you should be okay, I'ld watch the gauge though.
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Reply #10July 18, 2010, 02:38:03 pm

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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2010, 02:38:03 pm »
20psi is what you would get. The VNT will keep manifold pressure the same, it will simply open the vanes more to reduce drive pressure.

Oh thats right, your vanes are "wired open". In that case you would get 53psi, far more slowly than with a functioning VNT.
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Reply #11July 18, 2010, 03:11:31 pm

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Oh thats right, your vanes are "wired open". In that case you would get 53psi, far more slowly than with a functioning VNT.

Depends on where the wastegate is referenced and how much it can flow.
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Reply #12July 18, 2010, 07:37:03 pm

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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2010, 07:37:03 pm »
There is no wastegate on a VNT. All the exhaust flows through the turbine.

Reply #13July 18, 2010, 08:00:49 pm

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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2010, 08:00:49 pm »
There is no wastegate on a VNT. All the exhaust flows through the turbine.

That is interesting, last time I checked a K24 isn't a VNT.
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Reply #14July 18, 2010, 08:29:29 pm

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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2010, 08:29:29 pm »
Howsabout everybody simmer down and remember that:

1) these are just cars and engines... nothing worth duelling to the pain over...
2) we're here to learn from each other and share information, not prove who's the smartest or best endowed
3) the forum guidelines call for respectful posts at *all* times.


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