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1.6td oil pump interferes with 1.9AAZ block/conrods
by
Smokey Eddy
on 14 Jul, 2010 20:49
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First few posts were mislead thinking the problem was not related to the oil pump at all.
This thread is more of a reference to know that when using the AAZ block the 1.6 oil pump interferes with piston #2. IF you wanted to mix the two together.
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#1
by
Smokey Eddy
on 14 Jul, 2010 20:52
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awWW EFFFF
i see where that piece was supposed to go

AURGGG!! Why didn't my new stuff come with one!?@?@!?!@#?!@#$?!@?#!
It took forever to get it all to line up!!!!!!! FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#2
by
fatmobile
on 14 Jul, 2010 21:51
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When you do find one to put in:
I go around the edge with a bic pen to make sure it's centered.
So the pushrod hits the center of the push point.
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#3
by
rs899
on 15 Jul, 2010 03:55
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What fatty said. I did some clutch work once and I didn't get that big circlip that holds the "plate thing" seated exactly right. A few days later the plate worked loose and almost left me stranded. Had to pull it apart again...
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#4
by
Smokey Eddy
on 15 Jul, 2010 08:32
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Alright. Thanks for the advice guys. I'm still baffled that a new clutch set up doesn't come with one...
the one i have is from my 200mm set up. It's likely going to be too small for the 210
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#5
by
smutts
on 15 Jul, 2010 09:56
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Not a good kit if your pushrod has drilled a hole through your plate.
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#6
by
Smokey Eddy
on 15 Jul, 2010 10:22
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Not a good kit if your pushrod has drilled a hole through your plate. 
That happened to you?
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#7
by
theman53
on 15 Jul, 2010 17:06
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check the 200mm one out. I think the center hole and all the stuff on the inside *bolt holes, fins, and clutch plate thing* are all the same. I just wish they would put a bearing there instead of a little piece of junk brass thing.
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#8
by
Vincent Waldon
on 15 Jul, 2010 18:49
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I just wish they would put a bearing there instead of a little piece of junk brass thing. 
They did... it's called the throwout bearing.... and it's at the *other* end of the pushrod! ;-)
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#9
by
burn_your_money
on 17 Jul, 2010 10:11
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AFAIK 200 and 210mm plates are the same.
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#10
by
Quantum TD
on 17 Jul, 2010 15:35
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Not a good kit if your pushrod has drilled a hole through your plate. 
That happened to you?
I've done that fix twice on cars I've sold. Pimply-faced teeners who think their 2.0 ABA is a racecar. It'll blast the push-rod thru the plate in short order.
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#11
by
Smokey Eddy
on 17 Jul, 2010 22:00
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okay i have a new very pressing issue to deal with.
the cam is off the engine. the VAC pump is out of the block. It's in neutral. i try to turn it over with a ratchet and it gets stuck in the same place backwards or forwards and it's a pretty solid thunk when it does so.
its not valve contact because i removed the cam.
its not a stuck oil pump or vac pump because i removed the vac pump.
ANYONE have ANY idea wtf is wrong here...
its a 210mm flywheel from a late 80's gasser. 9 bolts.
i have the 8v flywheel and pressure plate in there with the 200mm plate thing that the pushrod pushes on.
its probably worth noting that the clutch pedal is NOT very difficult to press. It's definately pushing on something but its barely stiffer than the 200mm stock one.
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#12
by
Smokey Eddy
on 17 Jul, 2010 22:01
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The only thing i've come up with as of now is that the dust cover is somehow in the way? i have no idea how but that's all i've got.
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#13
by
truckinwagen
on 17 Jul, 2010 23:24
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ok, here we go....
I doubt that it is the clutch assembly, so here are a few questions to narrow it down.
is this a new transmission, or your old one? you can eliminate internal tranny issues by trying to turn the motor over with the clutch pedal down, thus decoupling the motor from it, and only turning the motor.
did you make sure the motor would turn over while on the stand before you attached it to the transmission and installed it in the car? if not, it is a good idea in the future, as any issues are much easier to fix before the motor is installed.
if none of that helps, I would pull the pan and look at the innards as you turn it over looking for any interference
-Owen
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#14
by
Smokey Eddy
on 18 Jul, 2010 00:27
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When it was on the stand i guess i never turned it over more than 360 degrees!!! what a fool I am!
I just pulled the pan off in the dark. I pulled the oil pump off as well and its not hitting the windage tray BUT one of the rod caps hit the flange part of the pick up tube for the oil pump!!!
Disaster!
What do i do?!