No more oil filters! Hmmm what do you guys think?

[climbinghalfdome]

So I'm surfing the web on a Saturday and found this little gem.
They take the pressure from your oil pump to spin a centrifuge to which the same motor oil is added. They claim it filters below one micron where regular oil filters only go to 25.

Wheres the page.
http://www.dieselcraft.com/EngineOilCleaningOC25.php
What do you guys think? I'm not a tree hugging kind of guy, but I just spent $14 on one oil filter. Maybe this thing will keep more filters out of the dump, more bread in my pocket, and more life in my VW.
Is anyone running one of these things already?

[mystery3]

Sounds like a good idea. How much does it cost?

[burn_your_money]

Sounds like a good idea. How much does it cost?

100 oil filters ($599)

The extra engine protection may well be worth it though.

[Rabbit on Roids]

100 oil filters for me is 1400 bucks..

[smutts]

100 oil filters will be about a half million miles worth. The Glacier Metal Co. had something similar in my BP diesel engine book, from 1964. So the idea has been around for a while.

[burn_your_money]

100 oil filters for me is 1400 bucks..

What kind of filters do you run?

[Rabbit on Roids]

wix. a gasser vw filter is 8 bucks, a diesel filter is 14 bucks. locally atleast.

[mystery3]

I always add a few to my autohausaz or other orders and have them on hand. I bought one at the dealer a while ago for almost $20.

[rabbitman]

wix. a gasser vw filter is 8 bucks, a diesel filter is 14 bucks. locally atleast.

I think I pay about 8-9 bucks for napa gold.

[climbinghalfdome]

Sounds like a good idea. How much does it cost?

100 oil filters ($599)

The extra engine protection may well be worth it though.

Am I right in thinking that there are only so many engines out there and none of them are getting any younger? At some point the junk yards on our planet will run out of good engines from wrecked jetta's, golfs, and rabbits. (My 1.6 from a 1986 golf in Germany.) The extra engine protection maybe well worth the sticker price. Isn't that why we buy magnetic drain plugs?
I guess if you look at a car payment being $300, and if this extends the life of your existing engine by two months, it will have paid for its self. The problem is there is no way to measure the added longevity this centrifuge would add.
Does anyone already have one of these?
I found these thinking I could use it to filter WVO down to < 1 micron, but they have others that will do that, not on board the VW.
Kevin

[mystery3]

Am I right in thinking that there are only so many engines out there and none of them are getting any younger? At some point the junk yards on our planet will run out of good engines from wrecked jetta's, golfs, and rabbits. (My 1.6 from a 1986 golf in Germany.) The extra engine protection maybe well worth the sticker price. Isn't that why we buy magnetic drain plugs?
I guess if you look at a car payment being $300, and if this extends the life of your existing engine by two months, it will have paid for its self.

I'm sure there are production figures somewhere that will probably astound but basically no, we won't run out of engines for a long time.

And $300 for a new car payment? Unless you have a lot down or are buying a hyundai it's going to be significantly greater, that said you need to calculate maintenance costs, resale value into your equation and depending on your situation you may factor in things like safety and the ability to hear a passenger at 75 over the engine noise and decide a new car is right for you. I recently got rid of my old bmw and bought a 2010 wrx and I daily drive my 1981 caddy.

[catlin_cava]

And $300 for a new car payment? Unless you have a lot down or are buying a hyundai it's going to be significantly greater,

The Hyundai Accent we had was 243 a month hahaha Now our new 2010 Golf City is onlye 330 a month.

[mystery3]

I guess how many months you're financing for probably can have a large impact as well. In any case do you really need an excuse to spend $600 on an oil filtration system? Just get it and do a write up on the installation already!

[wolf_walker]

Stuff like that is neat, and as was mentioned not a new idea.  I'd be more apt to want to use that on really really expensive stuff.  Also, the motors just don't wear from dirty oil if you change the filter with a quality one and use decent oil.  I have never seen bearing wear, which is what dirty oil get's you, on these things.  The rest of the wear they exhibit isn't really un-clean oil related, if it was we'd all be putting new filters on every other week by now.

That being said overkill is consistently more fun.

[clbanman]

It's funny, we get into the same type of discussions at work about dirty oil.   We've never seen a warranty failure directly attributable to dirty oil, and we know some of our customers don't change the oil at our recommended intervals, some don't use the recommended oils, etc.   I was always told dirty oil is better than no oil which I have personally proved the hard way.  

FWIW MTU uses centrifugal filters on their new V16 2000 series engine but as an addition to standard type filters as opposed to 100% replacement.   I don't know the filtration specs on what they use.

Regarding engine supply, the local junkyards have started crushing MK1 and 2 VW's instead of keeping them around.  This will very quickly affect engine block availability locally.