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It IS time young ones by 8v-of-fury on 25 Jun, 2010 20:40
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for me to dump some cash in to my rock'n'rolla 81.
(yeah my picture stitching sucks, shutup) lol
What I have so far on the list is this;
- Need to do a HG
- Was looking at either stock non-stretch normal 11mm bolts.. or finding some ok used 11mm studs.
- Want to do a rubber valve cover gasket as well, anyone know where I can find the stud kit in Canada?
- New oil drain plug as the old one is FUBAR'd.
- Oil change, trying to decide weather to 1: do a flush 2: switch to a synthetic..?
- I want to do the suspension for sure, as rusty springs with coils broken off and shot struts, with verrry loose front end is WAY NO FUN TO DRIVE.
- I've already got KYB gas rear struts, plan on getting KYB fronts as well.
- I will be using good quality strut mounts as well, Bilstein.
- Got tie rods, ball joints, and new control arms on the list.
- What do you guys suggest I do for springs?? I really do not want to spend $80 a spring if i do not have too.. find somebody local that just did a coil over swap? lol
- I have seen these kits of red poly bushings to replace pretty much every rubber bushing in the car, but i can't seem to find them.. anyone know where I can get them in Canada as well? or for at least not to much from wherever? (which engine mounts are bad to have poly mounts on a diesel? Front and back? or sides?)
I am completely comfortable with the amount of power of the 1.6 N/a for now, and power mods can wait. I need to make this car safe, and a bomb to drive. Then power will come. What are your guys thoughts on all of this please! what would you change about what I want to do and why. Your views are very welcome.
Also I need to do a clutch, I want it to be street-able and inexpensive. But have moderate clamping pressure, as this engine will not ever see much power. Unless I decide to turbo it and drive it to its grave.
I have seen a wide variety of mix matching parts. Whats the best to go with? and from who?
thanks a lot guys. I Needa Spend Some Ched.
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#1 by rabbitman on 25 Jun, 2010 21:37
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/75-84-VW-Rabbit-Prothane-Suspension-Bushings-Kit-MK1-1-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45f17a0ea8QQitemZ300404051624QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
This guy wanted $36 to ship to me.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360275450307
This link has free shipping to me.......and is in the mail now........the picture is mk2 stuff.
http://store.blackforestindustries.com/suspension.html sell it too, they also sell control arms with prothane's installed.
I've been looking around and it sounds like some people like the motor mount inserts and others don't and some like the rear mount and others don't.
Overall for a diesel I think the suspension stuff is the main reason to get the kit, you'll also save money and if you want try the engine mounts for your own amusement.
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#2 by mystery3 on 25 Jun, 2010 22:19
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http://store.blackforestindustries.com/suspension.html sell it too, they also sell control arms with prothane's installed.
If you buy this stuff separately you'll get a better deal and not have to deal with BFI. -
#3 by rabbitman on 25 Jun, 2010 23:30
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Never dealt w/ BFI, but the total kit is a waaaay better deal than getting each thing separate.
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#4 by 8v-of-fury on 26 Jun, 2010 06:18
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thanks Rabbitman, for that info. Gladly appreciate it!
Will be getting the kit from MI i think.. I guess there all the same right? lol
I have an 84 with good springs all around, so what I was thinking of doing.. was just taking pretty much every piece of suspension from it. Take the rear axle off, as it will be needed to put poly bushings in and doing the rear struts abd poly mounts for them as well, and then take every thing from the front and swap it over. (axles, control arms as mine are bent, knuckles, strut cartridges and swap in new mounts and struts) On the control arms I will be doing the poly's and new bj's. Also will be doing new tie rods, not just ends as they are god knows how many miles on them.. and there the same price for the end or the whole rod anyway.. so replace it all. After doing all this I should theoretically have a completely new car underneath, yes? -
#5 by mystery3 on 26 Jun, 2010 08:47
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Never dealt w/ BFI, but the total kit is a waaaay better deal than getting each thing separate.
I just meant the control arms and cab's, the total kit is a bargain but there are probably cheaper places to get it than bfi, and then you don't have to bring bfi the business. -
#6 by Baron VonZeppelin on 26 Jun, 2010 09:57
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In the for sale section, gtidiesel1.6 has some 11mm head studs.
He's on your side of the border too.
There has to be a decent nut&bolt store up there that sells 6mmx30mm strait studs. I can get them for you with allenhead recess in top (nice perk) for $2 usd set of 8, plus envelope postage.
Or i could price a box of 100 and put you in business as the canadian valve cover stud kit man / go-to-guy.
You 'could' grind the shoulders off some old ones on a bench grinder - if you had too. But ..... uggh -
#7 by maxfax on 26 Jun, 2010 11:09
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Doesn't Victor Reniz offer the valve cover gasket with the studs? I'm pretty sure that's the brand I've been getting.. Don;t have anything around with the P/N at the moment..
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#8 by Baron VonZeppelin on 26 Jun, 2010 20:36
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I'm not sure Max.
Around a year or so ago - Vince Waldon offered a VicReinz rubber VC gasket that had studs included. But don't know if he tossed them in there with it as a bonus - or if they were factory included.
I've bought 4 VicReinz rubbers so far - none came with studs.
Could be a "special" part number to order that comes with studs.
Someone call VWaldon and get the verdict. -
#9 by theman53 on 26 Jun, 2010 20:50
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There could be a place that sells cup point socket set screws in a m6-1.0x30mm. These would work awesome and have the hex drive BVZ is talking about.
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#10 by Vincent Waldon on 26 Jun, 2010 21:37
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Around a year or so ago - Vince Waldon offered a VicReinz rubber VC gasket that had studs included. But don't know if he tossed them in there with it as a bonus - or if they were factory included.
The kit I had was a genuine Victor Reinz and it came with the studs.... sounds like perhaps they sell two different kits.. a "starter" kit and a "replacement" kit?
Here's a sample from eBay... claims to be a Reinz and it has the studs:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/VW-Dasher-Fox-Golf-Valve-Cover-Gasket-Set-79-81-85-93-/270589380425?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f00624749
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#11 by Baron VonZeppelin on 27 Jun, 2010 09:19
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The ones i get w/o studs are VictorR # 71-31691-00
AhausAZ # 051 103 483A @ $10
Local bigboxpartstores are about $14 for same.
The one on eBay lists part # 026 198 025C
so... that "might not" be a VictorR number you can take to a parts counter and order with. fwiw
Would be good to have the verified VictorR part number for the VC/Stud package to pass along as people inquire. -
#12 by Vincent Waldon on 27 Jun, 2010 10:01
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According to their website the Victor Reinz part number for the version *with* studs is 15-31692-01.
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#13 by rabbitman on 27 Jun, 2010 12:08
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myke_w sells the rubber gasket w/ studs........if he's still selling stuff anyways.
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#14 by sawedoffgolf on 29 Jun, 2010 01:08
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I had the poly stuff in my old mk1 rabbit TD. I started out with replacing each bushing by bushing to see what i would tolerate after a few months on my daily. I used all the suspension stuff and what a difference, i recommend using all the suspension stuff for sure.
I first did the nose stub mount thingy. Great improvement in clutch grab/feel, high rpm shifting felt tighter.
I took it out and threw in the stock one and the rear tranny mount that is under the car. Had the same feeling as the stub mount, only downside was in reverse the dash would really shake, it died down after awhile but still noticeable which wasn't a concern to me since you aren't driving constantly in reverse.
The mount inserts for the side mounts were my least favorite, i put them both in, no noticeable improvement in performance, bad shakes and vibrations at idle. Left them out and just put new oem bushings in. Never tried it with all 4 bushings in.
So I only used the stub and the bottom trans mount, along with new oem side bushings it was great to daily, slight more vibration at idle then stock, my girlfriend didn't even notice and she is usually picky with squeaks/rattles/noises/etc.