Author Topic: 3rd and 4th gear only... Help  (Read 6143 times)

June 22, 2010, 09:39:13 pm

dankcorey22

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 379
  • Personal Text
    Cummins!
    • Anything that runs
3rd and 4th gear only... Help
« on: June 22, 2010, 09:39:13 pm »
MY car wont go in reverse, 1st, 2nd, or 5th gear its aggravating. I parked it at a baseball field and when i was ready to leave the thing would not let me go in reverse. it took me a min. to realize what is happening but I figured it out pretty quick when i had to almost burn up the clutch in the car to get it home.

By the way its a 1983 1.6TD
( one more quick question what type of lifters are in the my car? )
MY CARs-BLACK 99.5 Jetta TDI 5 speed 93,000- DC Stage 2 Clutch Kit 14Lb FW, Afe air intake box, 2.5" DP, 11mm IP, 2.5" stright piped, boost gauge, PP764, RC5 (WOW), 3-Bar, McNally EGT/Boost, 17/22, Race Pipe, EGR Cooler Delete, PD lift pump, R32 MAF housing,FMIC

1983 VW Jetta 1.6 turbo fuel mods

Reply #1June 23, 2010, 01:58:19 am

745 turbogreasel

  • Guest
Re: 3rd and 4th gear only... Help
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2010, 01:58:19 am »
Your lateral shift rod has popped off, it is dangling between the tranny and firewall.  I retained mine with tie wire, but there are other solutions.
Pop it back on, and try not to shift like an animal :P

Reply #2June 23, 2010, 06:11:15 am

dankcorey22

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 379
  • Personal Text
    Cummins!
    • Anything that runs
Re: 3rd and 4th gear only... Help
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2010, 06:11:15 am »
Your lateral shift rod has popped off, it is dangling between the tranny and firewall.  I retained mine with tie wire, but there are other solutions.
Pop it back on, and try not to shift like an animal :P


What are you talking about shifting like an animal lol  :-X  Alright ill take another look at it

do you know what type of lifters my car has ive been trying to read abunch and hasn't found anything, ive looked in the Bentley also  :-\
MY CARs-BLACK 99.5 Jetta TDI 5 speed 93,000- DC Stage 2 Clutch Kit 14Lb FW, Afe air intake box, 2.5" DP, 11mm IP, 2.5" stright piped, boost gauge, PP764, RC5 (WOW), 3-Bar, McNally EGT/Boost, 17/22, Race Pipe, EGR Cooler Delete, PD lift pump, R32 MAF housing,FMIC

1983 VW Jetta 1.6 turbo fuel mods

Reply #3June 23, 2010, 06:34:44 am

theman53

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 7835
  • Personal Text
    Holmes County Ohio - North Central Ohio
Re: 3rd and 4th gear only... Help
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2010, 06:34:44 am »
Check the engine code. The year it should be a solid lifter head, but lots can happen in 27 years.

Reply #4June 23, 2010, 06:35:44 am

theman53

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 7835
  • Personal Text
    Holmes County Ohio - North Central Ohio
Re: 3rd and 4th gear only... Help
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2010, 06:35:44 am »
Oh and if you need replacement stuff
FTW
http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/ForSale/ShiftLinkage.shtml

Reply #5June 23, 2010, 09:12:00 am

dankcorey22

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 379
  • Personal Text
    Cummins!
    • Anything that runs
Re: 3rd and 4th gear only... Help
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2010, 09:12:00 am »
The VIN is WVWGH0162DW048936

The number on the head is 068 103 373 E

MY CARs-BLACK 99.5 Jetta TDI 5 speed 93,000- DC Stage 2 Clutch Kit 14Lb FW, Afe air intake box, 2.5" DP, 11mm IP, 2.5" stright piped, boost gauge, PP764, RC5 (WOW), 3-Bar, McNally EGT/Boost, 17/22, Race Pipe, EGR Cooler Delete, PD lift pump, R32 MAF housing,FMIC

1983 VW Jetta 1.6 turbo fuel mods

Reply #6June 23, 2010, 09:24:31 am

Baron VonZeppelin

  • Guest
Re: 3rd and 4th gear only... Help
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2010, 09:24:31 am »
85 was first year for NA Hydraulic lifters.
Mid to Late 86 was first year for Hydraulic on TD.
An 83 'would' be mechanical if all original.

Check this link to see picture of how to tell a Mechanical Lifter head from a Hydraulic Lifter head:
http://www.vwdieselparts.com/h&m.htm

If it happened while the car was parked - somebody probly mighta played a prank on ya. The shift rods are accessible from under the hood. One is about 8inches long, the other is about 3inches.
They have ball-cup ends on them and just kinda pop on.
They have keeper tabs that are supposed to be unlocked for removing/installing - but if the cups are worn inside- they can pop off pretty easy.

Look down in lower area of section between tranny - firewall.
You'll find them.

The link theman53 supplied has top dog deluxe stuff to rebuild.

But you can get everything to go back OEM style with new bushings, relay ball, and rods for about 20-25 kit on eBay and other vendors - if you need it. And you can buy the rods seperately as well.

Reply #7June 26, 2010, 10:38:03 am

dankcorey22

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 379
  • Personal Text
    Cummins!
    • Anything that runs
Re: 3rd and 4th gear only... Help
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2010, 10:38:03 am »


85 was first year for NA Hydraulic lifters.
Mid to Late 86 was first year for Hydraulic on TD.
An 83 'would' be mechanical if all original.

Check this link to see picture of how to tell a Mechanical Lifter head from a Hydraulic Lifter head:
http://www.vwdieselparts.com/h&m.htm

If it happened while the car was parked - somebody probly mighta played a prank on ya. The shift rods are accessible from under the hood. One is about 8inches long, the other is about 3inches.
They have ball-cup ends on them and just kinda pop on.
They have keeper tabs that are supposed to be unlocked for removing/installing - but if the cups are worn inside- they can pop off pretty easy.

Look down in lower area of section between tranny - firewall.
You'll find them.

The link theman53 supplied has top dog deluxe stuff to rebuild.

But you can get everything to go back OEM style with new bushings, relay ball, and rods for about 20-25 kit on eBay and other vendors - if you need it. And you can buy the rods seperately as well.

Yep mines a mechanical lifters. Now i need to figure out how many notch head gasket i need to get when i rebuild it.
MY CARs-BLACK 99.5 Jetta TDI 5 speed 93,000- DC Stage 2 Clutch Kit 14Lb FW, Afe air intake box, 2.5" DP, 11mm IP, 2.5" stright piped, boost gauge, PP764, RC5 (WOW), 3-Bar, McNally EGT/Boost, 17/22, Race Pipe, EGR Cooler Delete, PD lift pump, R32 MAF housing,FMIC

1983 VW Jetta 1.6 turbo fuel mods

Reply #8June 26, 2010, 11:20:57 am

745 turbogreasel

  • Guest
Re: 3rd and 4th gear only... Help
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2010, 11:20:57 am »
No, you need to take it apart and measure, unless you were the last one to rebuild it, and measured.