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June 22, 2010, 10:39:13 pm

4wheeler

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electric pump needed
« on: June 22, 2010, 10:39:13 pm »
I have a 1.9TD . it s in a sidekick. Runs well and has never needed the electric pump that was already in the tank. Only used it to prime the pump after working on it.. Just recently it s NEEDED the electric pump or it will run out of fuel till i turn it back on..
any ideas on the most likely cause?



Reply #1June 22, 2010, 11:01:00 pm

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Re: electric pump needed
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2010, 11:01:00 pm »
Fuel filter.
I had the exact thing happen in an 81 rabbit. After 4 to 5 fuel filters in a month it went away. Cheap and worth a shot.

Reply #2June 22, 2010, 11:16:08 pm

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Re: electric pump needed
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 11:16:08 pm »
I ve not had to change it before...it s all steel and doesn`t appear to come apart to change a cartrige..
Do you buy the whole thing and replace?

Wonder why 4 filter changes... someone dump something into your tank?

Reply #3June 22, 2010, 11:19:41 pm

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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2010, 11:19:41 pm »
Yep, me. I emptied the last of our farm fuel into it. Black sand and slime was all that was left. Mine would run at low RPM for a long time. Normal driving only about 5 miles. Then it would have to sit for 10 minutes and do it all again. After the siphon and several fuel filters it went away. I don't know about what filter you have if it is a VW filter it should spin on like an oil filter if it is MKI or have lines going to it with hose clamps for MKII. Anything else*sidekick* I would see what it had.

Reply #4June 22, 2010, 11:21:35 pm

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Re: electric pump needed
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2010, 11:21:35 pm »
MK2 it is big metal thing.. looks expensive, will have to price it in the AM...

Reply #5June 22, 2010, 11:25:23 pm

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Re: electric pump needed
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2010, 11:25:23 pm »
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=lmvb5v55aa0xpy55llybwgrx&makeid=800026@VW&modelid=1282845@JETTA DELUXE&year=1986&cid=22@Fuel %26 Air System&gid=6200@Fuel Filter

they are cheap. If it isn't it there is nothing wrong with replacing it :D

Reply #6June 22, 2010, 11:26:33 pm

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Re: electric pump needed
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2010, 11:26:33 pm »
if it is it, I hope it hasn`t gotten any crap in the IP pump...
Thanks for the suggestion..

Reply #7June 23, 2010, 01:40:04 am

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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2010, 01:40:04 am »
Filter is actually surprisingly cheap:

http://parts.autopartsonlinecanada.com/parts/apocanada/wizard.jsp?year=1985&make=VW&model=JET-D-001&category=E&part=Fuel+Filter

About $15 - no biggie...

Canadian Tire carries them too, and for whatever reason it's about the only Bosch filter in their entire lineup of otherwise generic stuff.  If your car doesn't have one currently then go for the 1985 version without the preheater valve - the preheater version is nothing but trouble!
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Reply #8June 23, 2010, 04:39:00 pm

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Re: electric pump needed
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2010, 04:39:00 pm »
i like how people will just not replace something just because they think the part LOOKS expensive..

Reply #9June 24, 2010, 10:32:19 am

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Re: electric pump needed
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2010, 10:32:19 am »

Canadian Tire carries them too, and for whatever reason it's about the only Bosch filter in their entire lineup of otherwise generic stuff.  If your car doesn't have one currently then go for the 1985 version without the preheater valve - the preheater version is nothing but trouble!

What are common issues with this preheater you speak of?
I`m also guessing you are talking about the white plastic fitting that snaps into the filter that the return line passes through?

Mine has that and you say it can be eliminated?

http://parts.autopartsonlinecanada.com/parts/apocanada/wizard.jsp?year=1992&make=VW&model=PAS-TD-002&category=E&part=Fuel+Filter

Reply #10June 26, 2010, 01:40:23 pm

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Re: electric pump needed
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2010, 01:40:23 pm »

Canadian Tire carries them too, and for whatever reason it's about the only Bosch filter in their entire lineup of otherwise generic stuff.  If your car doesn't have one currently then go for the 1985 version without the preheater valve - the preheater version is nothing but trouble!

What are common issues with this preheater you speak of?
I`m also guessing you are talking about the white plastic fitting that snaps into the filter that the return line passes through?

Mine has that and you say it can be eliminated?

http://parts.autopartsonlinecanada.com/parts/apocanada/wizard.jsp?year=1992&make=VW&model=PAS-TD-002&category=E&part=Fuel+Filter

If you get any air in your fuel system for any reason, it keeps getting circulated back into the filter, to the pump, back to the filter, repeat.  Even worse, a lot of the time the source of the air IS that white plastic valve itself, further confounding things.

It can be eliminated quite easily - just get a filter from a year that doesn't have it.  Filter is the same size and everything, it just doesn't have the socket for the valve on it.  Then you can connect the lines that used to go to it to eachother, making it just a straight return to the tank.  The '85 filter I linked to will do quite nicely!
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2004 Jetta Wagon - 1.8T - Blitzen

Reply #11June 30, 2010, 10:48:25 am

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Re: electric pump needed
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2010, 10:48:25 am »
Just wanted to let you guys know that the pickup line was the issue...

Had to pull it out and JB weld it... Works mint now...

 

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