Author Topic: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)  (Read 195137 times)

Reply #480December 20, 2012, 08:46:36 am

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Re: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« Reply #480 on: December 20, 2012, 08:46:36 am »
I'll take a stab in the dark and say partially clogged fuel filter.
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Reply #481December 20, 2012, 05:07:04 pm

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Re: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« Reply #481 on: December 20, 2012, 05:07:04 pm »
Hmm, yes. I've got the three different style of filter here that eventually needs to make its way on to the car ;) I had a few mornings where it would start and then die and no fuel would be comin through the filter.. so I had to run back in to the house and get some boiling water.

So yes, a clogged filter is probably what caused my stumble the other day.. and is probably robbing me of power!! How RUDE.

I will be using the rabbit spin on type when I redo my fuel lines, the car was a CIS gas car so the fuel lines come up on the drivers side. That is where my filter is now, behind the battery on the tower.

So I'll be looking for a 2 micron setup when I go that route as well, and run them in line with each other. Having my electric fuel pump on the pump side of both filters.

Reply #482December 20, 2012, 05:26:52 pm

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Re: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« Reply #482 on: December 20, 2012, 05:26:52 pm »
Wouldn't you be better off putting the pump before the filters? They push better than they pull don't they? Even if you stick a 10 micron or something infront of the pump to keep it "safe"... I don't see dual 2 micron filters being easy to pull cold fuel through.
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Reply #483December 20, 2012, 07:23:57 pm

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Re: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« Reply #483 on: December 20, 2012, 07:23:57 pm »
Sorry a 2 micron pump side of the stock filter. Not dual 2 micron. Stock filters are somewhere between 10 and 15 right?

I dunno if it matters on push over pull, either way they are moving the same fuel no? lol Pushing fuel out one side will cause it to suck fuel in to fill that void, assuming there is no air in the suction side.


Reply #484December 20, 2012, 09:09:36 pm

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Re: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« Reply #484 on: December 20, 2012, 09:09:36 pm »
no it matters. It will always try to make that 4-7psi, but if you put a filter before the pump it may not ever get there. I put my inline pump right before the filter and feed the filter with it. Works like a champ. Closer you have it to the tank to pull the better the pump will work. I found that out on my bronco years ago.

Reply #485December 20, 2012, 09:28:28 pm

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Re: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« Reply #485 on: December 20, 2012, 09:28:28 pm »
OH, well I have had it right up before the filter, like 3 inches of line before filter.

My electrical pump sucks all the way from the tank. Its just a $15 ebay pump too. runs when ignition on, since April 2011.

Reply #486December 20, 2012, 09:33:22 pm

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Re: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« Reply #486 on: December 20, 2012, 09:33:22 pm »
Stock filters are somewhere between 10 and 15 right?

I thought 5-10 but I'm not sure.
Tyler

Reply #487December 20, 2012, 09:51:00 pm

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Re: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« Reply #487 on: December 20, 2012, 09:51:00 pm »
I think you are both correct. Something like 10-15 absolute 5-10 nominal

Reply #488December 29, 2012, 08:58:17 pm

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Re: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« Reply #488 on: December 29, 2012, 08:58:17 pm »
Well I blew through another plunger! This one happened a while back.. and I thought I was out of usable plungers.. but I found a few pump heads laying around that had good plungers still in them.

I checked the pumps idle pressures, as I was advised maybe excessive pressures could be sucking the plunger down through the bore on shut down. The idle pressure was around 45psi, on the low side even.

So not the issue.. but then I thought hey wait.. my pressure tester out bolt is not the one used while destroying plungers. So I looked inside my OUT bolt and found all of this;



All of the previous' plungers SNARF. LOL, so I have a new plunger in there with a surgically clean OUT bolt and so far a dozen or so shut-offs without issue.

Reply #489December 29, 2012, 11:26:17 pm

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« Reply #489 on: December 29, 2012, 11:26:17 pm »
Nice!  Does it run any different now aside from shutting off like its supposed to?
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Working on 1993 4runner mtdi, gtb1756vk, 11mm pump, smog .216 nozzles, custom 1" thick adaptor plate, pd150 intake manifold.

Reply #490December 29, 2012, 11:27:55 pm

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Re: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« Reply #490 on: December 29, 2012, 11:27:55 pm »
JF! Hard to tell, roads are hard packed snow.. I gots no tractions! Can't go above 1500 rpm without spinning my tires in every gear. Very hard to get the car to warm up ;)

Still having very odd idle issues. Cannot get it to act well cold AND hot.

Reply #491December 30, 2012, 02:12:40 am

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Re: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« Reply #491 on: December 30, 2012, 02:12:40 am »
On a side note, I serviced most of the electrical switches in my car. Door jamb light switches, cabin light, defrost, headlight, and 4-way. Cleaned up and slathered with die-electric. Everything works perfectly again! :)

New dash lights all around as well, I have never seen them all light up with the ignition on but lights off before. Now thats awesome.

Reply #492December 31, 2012, 09:00:50 am

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Re: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« Reply #492 on: December 31, 2012, 09:00:50 am »
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Reply #493December 31, 2012, 09:29:16 am

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Re: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« Reply #493 on: December 31, 2012, 09:29:16 am »
...hey wait.. my pressure tester out bolt is not the one used while destroying plungers....

So do you think the OUT bolt was plugged enough to cause the problem due to excessive internal pressure? I would think seals would be leaking before that point.

Reply #494December 31, 2012, 10:31:55 am

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Re: 1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)
« Reply #494 on: December 31, 2012, 10:31:55 am »
Also, perhaps periodic inspection (weekly?) to see if any damage occurs incrementally, or if it is one catastrophic event.

 

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