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April 18, 2010, 07:56:54 pm

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So I want to do an engine swap
« on: April 18, 2010, 07:56:54 pm »
Yeah... well, I do.

However I don't know if I should stick to the 1.6? or jump to the 1.9 IDI? or go TDI right off the bat?

what would you do? If I can find a full donor car, that would be the route i would take. How would you do it...

Reply #1April 18, 2010, 09:00:09 pm

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Re: So I want to do an engine swap
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2010, 09:00:09 pm »
1.6td is plenty for a mk1

IMHO the only way I would do Tdi swap in a mk1, is if I had an absolutely MINT car. I couldnt justify going tdi unless it was going to be my baby/ showcar.

Reply #2April 18, 2010, 11:19:47 pm

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Re: So I want to do an engine swap
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2010, 11:19:47 pm »
What are you replacing? I'd spring for a 1.6 bottom end and AAZ head, I don't like doing things normal. ;D
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Reply #3April 19, 2010, 04:36:58 am

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Re: So I want to do an engine swap
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2010, 04:36:58 am »
I'd just jump to TDI. Its more involved and more money, but the offshoot is more power. If you don't want as much work, and modding, go with the 1.9 AAZ. Really Jer, its ultimately up to you and your goals, and your budget.
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Reply #4April 19, 2010, 06:58:18 am

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Re: So I want to do an engine swap
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2010, 06:58:18 am »
AAZ 1.9 engine on Samba forum

Where here to help when you do...

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Reply #5April 19, 2010, 07:04:05 am

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Re: So I want to do an engine swap
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2010, 07:04:05 am »
Jeremy if you want an AAZ I have a lead on one in Barry for 350$ with a transmission.
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Reply #6April 19, 2010, 07:08:19 am

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Re: So I want to do an engine swap
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2010, 07:08:19 am »
If he doesnt take it I would , Will they ship it ?

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Reply #7April 19, 2010, 09:50:59 am

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Re: So I want to do an engine swap
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2010, 09:50:59 am »
Swap ina 1.6na. Lots of room in the engine bay for the odd time when somethine breaks, everything is either the same price or cheaper then the turbo parts, everyone and their uncle has some na parts, mileage is fantastic. Need I go on? ;D
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Reply #8April 19, 2010, 10:02:48 am

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Re: So I want to do an engine swap
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2010, 10:02:48 am »
tyler, i think all his cars already have n/a engines. im thinking he wants more power. n/a engines are great because they never die, but its because they do not have enough power to kill themselves. im thinking a built up n/a would be fun tho. tweeked pump, header & pipes, sweet intake manifold, maybe a HUGE blast of LOL.

Reply #9April 19, 2010, 11:01:02 am

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Re: So I want to do an engine swap
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2010, 11:01:02 am »
Tyler, just because you hate Turbo's doesn't mean it gives you the right to preach to everyone about N/a's :P

I was considering maybe a VR6? will it shoehorn in there? lol ;) I kid I kid, I joke I joke.. please please forgive me.

Seriously though, the 1.6 so far has been a good engine (even though I've only been driving it a month). The N/a is most certainly satisfactory being it my first Diesel. (which was what I was going for.. simplicity on the first ride.) However now I long for more power, I'm not talking about going all out on the thing.. but I do want a little more then 35whp lol.

If I were to go the route of AAZ what all would I need from the donor car? They are still mechanical pumps yes? So I wouldn't need much more electrical then maybe a few sensors.. eh? The motor mounts will come off the 1.6 block and go right on the 1.9 block? What about transmission.. will the inner CV axle join up to the AAZ trans? Also do those cars have a cable shift? they are on the 02A trans am I correct?

I think AAZ will be best to fit my budget. I will be looking to make this as simple as possible and I feel with the current economy going to TDI right at this moment, wouldn't be a wise step.

please if you don't mind any links you have saved on AAZ swaps in to an mk1, I would appreciate them like you wouldn't believe. I will post over on the Vortex as well probably, as they have a few more visitors.. no offense right guys? lol 

Reply #10April 19, 2010, 11:09:56 am

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Re: So I want to do an engine swap
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2010, 11:09:56 am »
i know that you have to use a gasser mount on the pump end of the engine. the 1.6 mount wont fit. the block on a 1.9 is too tall.

Reply #11April 19, 2010, 11:12:04 am

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Re: So I want to do an engine swap
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2010, 11:12:04 am »
do the pumps mount differently to the 19 engines? interesting. Well it just so happens I may be able to steal a gasser mount off the 84.

Reply #12April 20, 2010, 07:31:37 pm

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Re: So I want to do an engine swap
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2010, 07:31:37 pm »
Can anyone confirm the mounting procedure of the 1.9 to an mk1 frame please :)

Reply #13April 20, 2010, 07:47:55 pm

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Re: So I want to do an engine swap
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2010, 07:47:55 pm »
Since you like cheese, I'll share one of my favorite 1.9 -> MK1 links:

http://www.tomsebooks.com/newpoweroldcaddy.htm

Easy peasy.
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Reply #14April 20, 2010, 08:29:49 pm

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Re: So I want to do an engine swap
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2010, 08:29:49 pm »
Vince that is a killer read. HOWEVER. That is an mk2 1.6td in place of a 1.6 n/a.. Nifty read and good pictures. I read the whole thing :P lol