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is it possible to replace IP dist. head to pump housing seal on car
by
vfr750
on 11 Apr, 2010 22:52
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My IP on my 92 NA Golf is leaking at the point where the distributor head joins the pump body.
I was wondering if anyone's had luck with changing the seal without removing the pump or will a crapload of parts fall outta the pump if i try this?
Is there anything i should be careful of when i do this?
Anyone know a good source for the seals in the Mississauga/Toronto area (the Bosch warehouse is 2 minutes away from me, do they sell 'em)
Thanks
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#1
by
anto
on 12 Apr, 2010 01:52
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People have done it and there is a guide to doing it somewhere.
However i would always take the pump off the car in order to change seals.
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#2
by
arb
on 12 Apr, 2010 06:42
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Yes it is possible and if done correctly there is absolutely no risk of damage, but if done incorrectly it can wreck the pump. I've posted links quite a few times. Search is your friend. DON'T USE THE CRUSTY CRANK OR DIESELGEEK METHODS!! They don't safeguard against ruining the pump.
Follow Adrew's details exactly and it will work ! I tried to follow his, but as I loosened the 4 cap screws, I let them come out a bit too far and was interrupted by the dinner bell. When I came back out 30 minutes later, the head springs had pushed the head a bit too far off the body and the shaft came out of alignment, so I had to remove the IP completely. Its now waiting a rebuild as I had several spares that were much easier to swap the seals on the bench - this time following his details w/o delays.
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#3
by
Rabbit on Roids
on 12 Apr, 2010 08:48
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i did it once and ruined my pump. had to take it most of the way apart to fix the pump head that i snapped.
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#4
by
vfr750
on 12 Apr, 2010 08:52
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Gonna try libbybapa's method posted here h**p://www.vwdieselparts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5311 and see how it goes.
What's the difference between seal kit DGK-121 or DGK-126?
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#5
by
Rabbit on Roids
on 12 Apr, 2010 09:14
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oh hell no, i didnt know crap about pumps, took the pump head out, re sealed it, then when i tried putting it back together, i broke the pump head. then after i broke that, the rollers fell out of the cage. so then i took it off, reinstalled the rollers and put a new pump head on it. still works...
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#6
by
arb
on 12 Apr, 2010 12:29
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i did it once and ruined my pump. had to take it most of the way apart to fix the pump head that i snapped.
You didn't keep constant pressure on the plunger, did you?
:-D I had until dinner time, then it looked like the cast iron head was fused to the aluminum body, not realizing the O-ring was all that was holding it together - thus keeping the constant pressure until it let go. I understood to not even try to put it back together at that point w/o a full tear-down.
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#7
by
vfr750
on 12 Apr, 2010 19:34
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Went to Sharma Diesel in Mississauga to get a seal kit. The guy there told me no need for the kit if all i'm gonna do is replace the o-ring. He gave me the o-ring for free!!! so i figured i'd give him some recognition. BTW he had this smug smirk on his face, and said he doesn't know of anyone who has done the seal replacement on-car successfully without trashing the IP. Soooooooo the gauntlet has been dropped
Gonna try and tackle it later this week. Thank God its biking season. At least i can get to work on the ol Honda
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#8
by
Vincent Waldon
on 12 Apr, 2010 19:36
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Clean the outside of your pump well, follow Andrew's instructions slowly and carefully, and then take the old o-ring back to your supplier and tell him to hang it on *his* wall.
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#9
by
RabbitJockey
on 13 Apr, 2010 14:34
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y. its not that much work to remove it
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#10
by
Rabbit on Roids
on 15 Apr, 2010 10:54
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just pick up the drivers side of the car and set it on the passenger side. then none of the rollers will fall out of the pump.. lmfao...
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#11
by
dieselweasel
on 15 Apr, 2010 15:02
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BTW he had this smug smirk on his face, and said he doesn't know of anyone who has done the seal replacement on-car successfully without trashing the IP.
FWIW, I bought a distributor head o-ring from Giles and he too was doubtful that I could do the reseal successfully with the pump in-car. Followed Andrew's instructions and it went off without a hitch.
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#12
by
745 turbogreasel
on 14 Mar, 2011 23:36
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Thread returns from dead for great success.
Looks like some of my fuel return geysers need a bit of work.