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April 01, 2010, 10:57:50 pm

redneck_vdub

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Seized engine??!!
« on: April 01, 2010, 10:57:50 pm »
Hey there all. I have a mk4 golf tdi. I was recently driving to school in toronto and I came over a hill and ahead of me was a car waiting to turn, so I applied my brakes, it felt like the ABS kicked in for a second (my ABS light came on when I started it that morning) and as I was slowing down the car kind of chugged to a stop and I then noticed my engine was off. I tried to start it again...nothing, it just went click, it was trying to turn over but something seized up. I had my dad try to start it while I watched the serpentine belt assly, did not move at all. The car has 347k on it, the timing belt is still on it, it has oil, the crank does not spin by hand. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Reply #1April 01, 2010, 11:20:39 pm

rabbitman

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Re: Seized engine??!!
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2010, 11:20:39 pm »
Put it in gear and roll it and see if the engine turns or tries to turn.
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I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
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Reply #2April 02, 2010, 06:30:15 am

smoken u

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Re: Seized engine??!!
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 06:30:15 am »
yea already done that, just comes to a dead stop, im thinking a dropped valve, but at this point im also not ruling anything out
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Reply #3April 02, 2010, 10:17:09 am

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2010, 10:17:09 am »
Don't do anything until you can get the head off or pull all your injectors & see if it'll turn over.

If your engine doesn't want to turn over the LAST thing you should do is try to force it.

That said I once had a "seized" motor, turns out my alternator bearings welded themselves and was locking the entire motor!
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Reply #4April 02, 2010, 11:37:33 am

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2010, 11:37:33 am »
im heading over tommorrow to check it out, hopefully its not too bad.
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1990 VW jetta 1.6 td, 2.5" exhaust, no muffler, governor mod 2010 edition, K&N filter. and now 66 hp and 136 ftlbs.
project 1.6 liter in the works  :)
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You don't rev a VW diesel, you increase the clatter.
Reply #5April 02, 2010, 04:08:49 pm

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Re: Seized engine??!!
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2010, 04:08:49 pm »
Hopefully it's something simple like a seized alternator.  :-\
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Reply #6April 02, 2010, 06:54:03 pm

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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2010, 06:54:03 pm »
i certainly hope so, but not lookin that way, is a an anlternator that stops dead really gonna stall a TDI in 4th gear at 70km/h, thats decelerating?? i would have just thought iof its somtihng on the accesory drive that the belt would just break, like it did on my 91 juimmy when the water pump seized solid, but then again stranger things could happen lol
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1990 VW jetta 1.6 td, 2.5" exhaust, no muffler, governor mod 2010 edition, K&N filter. and now 66 hp and 136 ftlbs.
project 1.6 liter in the works  :)
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You don't rev a VW diesel, you increase the clatter.
Reply #7April 03, 2010, 04:09:07 pm

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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2010, 04:09:07 pm »
Got most of it apart today, lookin like a dropped valve in cylinder 4. Glow plug tip was damaged. Pullin the engine tomorrow most likely.
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'01 Golf TDI "The Redneck V-Dub"

360,000kms on the body; 17,000kms on the engine :D

EGR delete, 2.25" turbo back, air box mod, Giles injectors, VNT 17, ARP headstuds, 14LB flywheel, boost and EGT gauges.
Oo=w=oO
Reply #8April 03, 2010, 06:35:05 pm

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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2010, 06:35:05 pm »
ouch, sorry to hear that :'(
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'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
Watch: AGENDA, GRINDING AMERICA DOWN
Reply #9April 04, 2010, 08:28:33 pm

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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2010, 08:28:33 pm »
Yeah I gonna give everything a good lookover. Got the engine out today, need a new head, piston, conn rod, etc, etc. Atleast this piston will look good on my trophy shelf haha  :P
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'01 Golf TDI "The Redneck V-Dub"

360,000kms on the body; 17,000kms on the engine :D

EGR delete, 2.25" turbo back, air box mod, Giles injectors, VNT 17, ARP headstuds, 14LB flywheel, boost and EGT gauges.
Oo=w=oO
Reply #10April 04, 2010, 09:13:39 pm

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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2010, 09:13:39 pm »
We love carnage pictures???!!   :o :o :o
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Reply #11April 05, 2010, 01:39:46 am

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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2010, 01:39:46 am »
pictures coming soon, no worries :)
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1990 VW jetta 1.6 td, 2.5" exhaust, no muffler, governor mod 2010 edition, K&N filter. and now 66 hp and 136 ftlbs.
project 1.6 liter in the works  :)
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You don't rev a VW diesel, you increase the clatter.
Reply #12April 05, 2010, 05:42:09 pm

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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2010, 05:42:09 pm »
Bummer.  Going to fix I presume?
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Reply #13April 05, 2010, 06:14:58 pm

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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2010, 06:14:58 pm »
hopefully, depends on how bad it is once we get the piston out.

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'01 Golf TDI "The Redneck V-Dub"

360,000kms on the body; 17,000kms on the engine :D

EGR delete, 2.25" turbo back, air box mod, Giles injectors, VNT 17, ARP headstuds, 14LB flywheel, boost and EGT gauges.
Oo=w=oO
Reply #14April 12, 2010, 04:50:00 pm

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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2010, 04:50:00 pm »
Update: Got the entire engine stripped, not a nut/bolt left on it. Got a head from the wreckers with around 100k on it for $75. Got 1 free piston from a local vw guru, and other goodies to come!  :)

http://s858.photobucket.com/albums/ab144/veedubbster/engine%20pics/?albumview=slideshow
There is a link to some carnage pics.
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'01 Golf TDI "The Redneck V-Dub"

360,000kms on the body; 17,000kms on the engine :D

EGR delete, 2.25" turbo back, air box mod, Giles injectors, VNT 17, ARP headstuds, 14LB flywheel, boost and EGT gauges.
Oo=w=oO
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