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Reply #15March 18, 2010, 07:13:37 pm

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Re: My monster is mean to my clutch - help
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2010, 07:13:37 pm »
and again, this clutch is not nice!

it will want to stall your motor, unless you use very little throttle(backwards I know)
I find it best to start easy, and once the clutch is engaged you can get on it hard, but high RPM slipping clutch starts are not easy with it.
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Reply #16March 18, 2010, 07:14:08 pm

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Re: My monster is mean to my clutch - help
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2010, 07:14:08 pm »
The deal with mine was I had bought a 210mm flywheel, so I got about a 1/4" bigger clutch. same as 53 and zuk.

Reply #17March 18, 2010, 07:15:13 pm

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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2010, 07:15:13 pm »
I am running a 200mm flywheel.
the 190 clutch will work fine in a 200 or 210 too.

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Reply #18March 18, 2010, 07:54:43 pm

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Re: My monster is mean to my clutch - help
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2010, 07:54:43 pm »
Yeah I was just saying in case he looked and thought of ordering and then it didn't work since he probably has a 200 or 190 flywheel. Never a bad time to upgrade. I thought too I would have it all resurfaced together to have it done at once, and couldn't without buying another flywheel.

Reply #19March 18, 2010, 09:07:07 pm

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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2010, 09:07:07 pm »
hill folk used a clutchnet clutch on his tdi-m  good to see your making good power.  i'm surprised your clutch didn't slip sooner to be honest.  once it doesn't sleep your car will feel great.  after i put a new clutch in my na daily rabbit i felt like i was driving a race car haha.  i left it go for far too long.
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Reply #20March 19, 2010, 10:01:30 am

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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2010, 10:01:30 am »
see ed, i told you a long time ago that your car should go better than it did. i knew my rabbit wasnt an accident that it would burn the tires off with little effort.

Reply #21March 19, 2010, 03:11:43 pm

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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2010, 03:11:43 pm »
"burn the tires off" HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
and yes i have surprised my self.
Essentially it's the same engine it just breathes a lot better (colder smoother faster more volume). Crazy how big of a differnce it makes.

Question: How can i see which tranny i have?
Do i want to find an 02A from the junk yard?

That site had very reasonable pricing. I'd be okay with buying my parts from there. But, if i can replace just the clutch disk and still have it hold together i'd obviously rather do that. I don't exactly have a "need" to replace anything else. But, like "theman53" said, I don't want to run into issues and have to buy new everything because i went too big with the clutch disk or something.

by the way, im still forever greatful for those 4 bolts you sent me for my crank sprocket.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2010, 03:15:46 pm by Smokey Eddy »
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Reply #22March 19, 2010, 03:41:36 pm

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Re: My monster is mean to my clutch - help
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2010, 03:41:36 pm »
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT EVER BUY A SPEC CLUTCH

ive eaten 3, this was my latest on a 300bhp 1.8t



i was actually thinking about this for my build which will be simlar to yours.

TT high pressure plate, and stock clutch is what i have in mind. its more about the pressure plate than the clutch material until you start getting over about 275-300ft lbs

Reply #23March 19, 2010, 11:21:58 pm

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Re: My monster is mean to my clutch - help
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2010, 11:21:58 pm »
"burn the tires off" HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
and yes i have surprised my self.
Essentially it's the same engine it just breathes a lot better (colder smoother faster more volume). Crazy how big of a differnce it makes.

Question: How can i see which tranny i have?
Do i want to find an 02A from the junk yard?


That site had very reasonable pricing. I'd be okay with buying my parts from there. But, if i can replace just the clutch disk and still have it hold together i'd obviously rather do that. I don't exactly have a "need" to replace anything else. But, like "theman53" said, I don't want to run into issues and have to buy new everything because i went too big with the clutch disk or something.

by the way, im still forever greatful for those 4 bolts you sent me for my crank sprocket.

you need a different flywheel, shift box and cables, clutch master and slave cylinders, and the right mounts. along with a few other things im sure to swap in an O2A

Reply #24March 20, 2010, 01:04:48 am

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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2010, 01:04:48 am »
No one has mentioned the straps on the pressure plate.
 I've heard of people putting double straps on them or buying a pressure plate with beefed-up straps.
 
 Jake fspGTD ran a 190mm clutch disc and 200mm flywheel. Makes sense, less rotating mass.

 Does the 210 flywheel,
 being from a gasser,
 have the right timing marks?
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Reply #25March 20, 2010, 02:30:17 am

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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2010, 02:30:17 am »
so am i alright buying that clutch disk and only that clutch disk? it will replace the stock one?
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Reply #26March 20, 2010, 05:22:54 am

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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2010, 05:22:54 am »
No one has mentioned the straps on the pressure plate.
 I've heard of people putting double straps on them or buying a pressure plate with beefed-up straps.
 
 Jake fspGTD ran a 190mm clutch disc and 200mm flywheel. Makes sense, less rotating mass.

 Does the 210 flywheel,
 being from a gasser,
 have the right timing marks?

i did without mentioning it, the Techtonics (TT) pressure plate i mentioned above has extra straps ;)

Reply #27March 20, 2010, 05:23:44 am

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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2010, 05:23:44 am »
so am i alright buying that clutch disk and only that clutch disk? it will replace the stock one?

clutch friction material will hardly make a difference without extra clamping pressure, i.e pressure plate

Reply #28March 20, 2010, 11:23:34 am

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Re: My monster is mean to my clutch - help
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2010, 11:23:34 am »
No one has mentioned the straps on the pressure plate.
 I've heard of people putting double straps on them or buying a pressure plate with beefed-up straps.
 
 Jake fspGTD ran a 190mm clutch disc and 200mm flywheel. Makes sense, less rotating mass.

 Does the 210 flywheel,
 being from a gasser,
 have the right timing marks?

no, you have to make your own timing marks. that gasser wheel made my engine EXTREMELY hard to time, until i took and actually marked tdc.

Reply #29March 20, 2010, 11:27:30 am

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Re: My monster is mean to my clutch - help
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2010, 11:27:30 am »
so am i alright buying that clutch disk and only that clutch disk? it will replace the stock one?

clutch friction material will hardly make a difference without extra clamping pressure, i.e pressure plate

if you took a centerforce DFX or a red clutch net disk, and put it with a stock 8v PP, it would be retarded. you would be wasting your disk. you need atleast a 16v pressure plate, at very minimum. i have one on my 1.5 engine, and its definitely firmer than my factory 8v pressure plates. both in how it engages the clutch, and the amount of pressure taken to depress the clutch. 16v PP, 8v gas FW, and some sort of sprung center disk. our engines dont have smooth enough power for a solid disk in my opinion. i would rather be nice to my trans, cause i hate swapping them.

 

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