sorry greg, i was confused by your thread because i placed the same post. i thought you were replying, asking if i wanted a complete engine or a long block builder. right after i replied i realized you had started a thread with the same exact title. no harm meant. if you go look at my post you'll see i got a reply for a longblock builder, (which i do not want) so feel free to contact that person if you want...thanks for understanding.