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Reply #15February 26, 2010, 12:50:07 am

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Re: K24/T-3 Turbo - anygood??
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2010, 12:50:07 am »
Um, what are you going to do with the K14  ::)  :).
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Reply #16February 26, 2010, 11:52:05 am

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Re: K24/T-3 Turbo - anygood??
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2010, 11:52:05 am »
Isn't the T2 somewhat comparable to a K14?  If not, what is the differnence?  I have a T2 on my 1.6 and am just getting ready to install it, but haven't tried it, so it is just theory at this point.  Anyone have experience with this? 

Is the aaz pump give better performance than the standard 1.6 td IP?


the AAZ pump is not as good as the 1.6 pump in stock forms.

Reply #17February 26, 2010, 06:13:46 pm

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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2010, 06:13:46 pm »


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the AAZ pump is not as good as the 1.6 pump in stock forms.
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Giles easily fixes that.
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Reply #18February 26, 2010, 06:23:17 pm

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Re: K24/T-3 Turbo - anygood??
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2010, 06:23:17 pm »
Isn't the T2 somewhat comparable to a K14?  If not, what is the differnence?  I have a T2 on my 1.6 and am just getting ready to install it, but haven't tried it, so it is just theory at this point.  Anyone have experience with this? 

Is the aaz pump give better performance than the standard 1.6 td IP?


the AAZ pump is not as good as the 1.6 pump in stock forms.

I think it's every bit as good, just different. The 1.9 pump is set up for 2-stage injectors while the 1.6 pump is set up for single stage injectors. Having said that, a Giles pump is a giles pump, and Giles is the MASTER.

Reply #19February 27, 2010, 01:41:41 pm

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Re: K24/T-3 Turbo - anygood??
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2010, 01:41:41 pm »
i have a mk1 golf with a AAZ and a T3 with a 2.5" exhaust,man i love it,as soon as i hit 2nd gear im off,115bhp on a rolling road test,not intercooled yet,just swapped the aneroid pin for the rover pin  :P
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Reply #20February 27, 2010, 01:44:42 pm

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« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2010, 01:44:42 pm »
stewardc ,
Will the aaz pump work well on the 1.6 td without the 2 stage injectors?  Will it perform better or at least as well as the stock td IP?
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Reply #21February 27, 2010, 03:52:32 pm

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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2010, 03:52:32 pm »
stewardc ,
Will the aaz pump work well on the 1.6 td without the 2 stage injectors?  Will it perform better or at least as well as the stock td IP?

people say that the 1.6 pump works best in stock form. but then you get the random other person that will say that the AAZ pump is better. the aaz pump has a higher lift cam plate, but the LDA is basically there for looks. a 1.6 ip has a smaller cam plate, but the LDA definitely kicks ass on the stock 1.6 pumps. both pumps have their pros and cons really.

Reply #22February 27, 2010, 05:09:03 pm

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Re: K24/T-3 Turbo - anygood??
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2010, 05:09:03 pm »
stewardc ,
Will the aaz pump work well on the 1.6 td without the 2 stage injectors?  Will it perform better or at least as well as the stock td IP?

I would use a 1.6 pump if you are going to keep it basically stock.

I would NOT have used a VNT turbo, no matter what anyone says. Keep it simple is a good motto with these engines.
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Reply #23February 28, 2010, 11:18:49 am

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Re: K24/T-3 Turbo - anygood??
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2010, 11:18:49 am »
stewardc ,
Will the aaz pump work well on the 1.6 td without the 2 stage injectors?  Will it perform better or at least as well as the stock td IP?

I would use a 1.6 pump if you are going to keep it basically stock.

I would NOT have used a VNT turbo, no matter what anyone says. Keep it simple is a good motto with these engines.

im with ya on this one buddy, i know from experience how hard it is to install one properly.

Reply #24February 28, 2010, 01:07:25 pm

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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2010, 01:07:25 pm »
im with ya on this one buddy, i know from experience how hard it is to install one properly.

I reaslly don't think there is a way to install it properly without the electronics it was designed for.

Reply #25February 28, 2010, 01:28:10 pm

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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2010, 01:28:10 pm »
 ;D ;D ;D

I wondered how many posts it would take.....

Reply #26February 28, 2010, 05:57:46 pm

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Re: K24/T-3 Turbo - anygood??
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2010, 05:57:46 pm »
VNT works well on my 2008 997TT

22 psi , 685 hp

It's all wheel drive of course...

Tubi exhaust and headers with ECU flash

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Reply #27February 28, 2010, 11:47:18 pm

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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2010, 11:47:18 pm »
Yeah, come one :D!  Keep them coming. This is getting good ;D.

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Reply #28March 01, 2010, 02:48:41 am

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Re: K24/T-3 Turbo - anygood??
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2010, 02:48:41 am »
Which three guys couldn't get it to work?  I can only think of one, Rabbitman, whose turbo never functioned properly.  That had nothing to do with the difficulty in creating a vane control.

rabbitman speaks, I've not given up yet. I've pulled it and after I get around to it I'll send it in or something and have it looked at, if it turns out to be junk I'll have it fixed unless the price is out of my range. If the test shows it to be good I'll probably retry it. Only takes part of a day to install it since I have everything made up already ;D.

I've never installed any sort of vane control, I was going to set the vanes and use fueling to control the boost but having never got hardly any boost I figured there was no point in building a controller.......

stewardc, you are being childish, bashing other peoples work is just lame, especially when you start calling them liars.

One guy can make a controller and like it, while another guy won't like it, and in that case he can either make his own how he wants/likes it, or state his opinion and then shut up.
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Reply #29March 01, 2010, 11:30:16 am

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Re: K24/T-3 Turbo - anygood??
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2010, 11:30:16 am »
However, I really am interested in what you have with a VNT that my GT on the 1.9 doesn't provide?

And, once again, a tirade without a substantial answer.

Statements such as these abound
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I live at 7,000 ft of elevation and so off-boost power is reduced and turbo lag is extended.  I can't stand K24s or T3s.  I wouldn't ever put one on anything that was mine
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All I am asking---all I have ever asked, is what would induce me to throw away my old reliable GT turbo and go VNT at sea level?

But it looks like I'll never get an answer, so, once again, sorry for the thread hijack, ;D