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Reply #30March 24, 2010, 01:42:05 am

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Re: its about nitrous again...
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2010, 01:42:05 am »
truckinwagen if you are still planning to do the twin charger set up, wait for the nitrous.  I am sure you will pay a pretty penny for your twin charger set up. Nitrous will be the Icing on the cake when your twin charger build is finished. 
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Reply #31March 24, 2010, 01:46:12 am

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« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2010, 01:46:12 am »
yeah, well, it is just such a good deal!

as for the charger setup, I have the supercharger.
from here it is just fab work to get it on(and not that much really)

as for the turbocharger, I dunno, honestly I am not sure if the motor will take all the boost.
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Reply #32March 24, 2010, 02:10:19 am

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« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2010, 02:10:19 am »
What happened to your G60?  What are you putting on now?
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Reply #33March 24, 2010, 02:20:30 am

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« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2010, 02:20:30 am »
the G60 went pop.

I put a new timing belt in it, only to have it break 100 miles later.
the belt must have been bad from the factory, as there was really nothing else that could have caused the failure.

I have an M62 now, which should be harder to break.

I was boosting to 10PSI for about 200 miles, and it was more fun than any other diesel vw I have ever driven, I boosted to 18PSI for about a minute, but then the charger popped. it was a blast until then though.

I plan on pushing 15-20PSI out of the M62, but am not sure if I want to push the motor too much more than that.
if I put a big turbo on it, it would only really make sense to make a fair amount of boost with it, which I dont think the motor would take(when compounded by the supercharger)

I think that the nitrous would go well with the supercharger very well, the motor makes lots of power by itself boosted, and there really is no lack of power for driving around and putting other similar cars in their place.
and it does very well on the highway too(would actually like a good way of dropping off boost on the highway)

but there are occasions when a little more would be nice, and nitrous not only allows more fuel to be burned, but it drops intake and exhaust temps drastically while at it.

oh.
if I can sell some of the bits I have for sale now, I will probably do it, and decide whether to regret it later.

-Owen
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Reply #34March 24, 2010, 02:29:53 am

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« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2010, 02:29:53 am »
I am really sorry to hear that man, that sucks big time.  Nitrous sure would be a good way to go if you are not doing the twin charger.  I still have not installed my Zex kit on my Lysholm 1.6 yet, too busy remodeling a bathroom in one of my rental units, spending time with my 3 year old and working 60 hrs a week  :o
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Reply #35March 24, 2010, 02:35:19 am

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« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2010, 02:35:19 am »
yeah, life does get in the way.

I wont be doing anything with the supercharger or the nitrous until I come back from work in the fall.
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Reply #36March 24, 2010, 04:32:33 am

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« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2010, 04:32:33 am »
truckinwagen,

why not just use the supercharger to make a "baseline" 10psi and have the turbo work ontop, a not crazy 15psi. That way your peaking out at 25psi and can probably use quite a good sized turbo so its not too restrictive.

just because your setup 'could' make 35-40psi, doesnt mean you have to :-) I like components to work well inside of their safety factor range :-)
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Reply #37March 24, 2010, 04:01:52 pm

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« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2010, 04:01:52 pm »
yeah, I suppose.

although the m62 will be very happy to produce 15 PSI, so it wont be out of its element there.

I really like the simplicity of the supercharged setup, and am not sure if I want to complicate things with the turbocharger(yet at least that is)

the nitrous would not add any complexity really, I am going to build a control circuit for my water/meth anyway, and was going to run the nitrous as the final stage of spray on that controller.

it will also allow me to quickly spool a big turbo down the road if I decide to do that too.

I could probably wait, but this is such a good deal I'm not sure if I can pass it up, even if it is a while before I install it.
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Reply #38March 24, 2010, 05:03:38 pm

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« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2010, 05:03:38 pm »
Owen, I'm very sorry for this video BUT I HAVE TOO.

Fast and the furious in five seconds
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Reply #39March 24, 2010, 06:02:42 pm

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« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2010, 06:02:42 pm »
thats cool, but notice that I am thinking of installing a nitrous kit on my car not "Gettin' me some Nawz, Yo!"

a secret part of me loves those movies!

"Danger to the Manifold!"

-Owen
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Reply #40March 24, 2010, 06:05:19 pm

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« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2010, 06:05:19 pm »
thats cool, but notice that I am thinking of installing a nitrous kit on my car not "Gettin' me some Nawz, Yo!"

a secret part of me loves those movies!

"Danger to the Manifold!"

-Owen

Yup, the towing companies LOVE those movies becuase the night of release at the movie theater the impound lots fill up with street racers lol
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Reply #41March 25, 2010, 07:53:38 pm

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« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2010, 07:53:38 pm »
if you get really ........strange................use the NOS to kick the compresser wheel and cool the charge and prevent ........lag.....from the turbo. Or,.......................... :-X
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Reply #42March 25, 2010, 08:32:38 pm

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« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2010, 08:32:38 pm »
well, this is all moot anyway, as I just had to spend the money I was going to use for the nitrous on new front wheel bearings for my wife's neon.

so instead of tinkering with power adders, I get to tear the front end off a early 2000's american car.

Blech!
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Reply #43March 26, 2010, 01:32:33 am

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« Reply #43 on: March 26, 2010, 01:32:33 am »
correction, an early 2000's American car with a mitsubishi engine ::)  enjoy
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Reply #44March 26, 2010, 01:36:26 am

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« Reply #44 on: March 26, 2010, 01:36:26 am »
the mitsubishi engine is by far the best part of the car.

I am very glad that they realized that they could not make a good small motor and bout the rights to a really well put together one form someone else.

the neon would really suck if chrysler built their own motor...
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