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February 18, 2010, 09:17:20 am

dash cunning

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Intermediate shaft interference.
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So i'm puttin my bottom end together and i've got the #1 and #4 piston/rods in and it seems like the #4 rod is getting hung up on the intermediate shaft so the motor won't turn. the marks on the rod are on the same side as the shaft as per bentley, anyone know what's goin on? thanks.


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Reply #1February 18, 2010, 11:53:10 am

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Re: Intermediate shaft interference.
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2010, 11:53:10 am »
Is the IM shaft in all the way?
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Reply #2February 18, 2010, 02:09:45 pm

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2010, 02:09:45 pm »
Seem a few I Shafts that have had the lip broken off letting the shaft float a fair bit.

Reply #3February 18, 2010, 02:12:31 pm

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2010, 02:12:31 pm »
looks like a pic from the back of the motor with the expansion plug removed(so you can see the gear end of the shaft)

I would guess that it is an issue with not being held laterally by the lip properly.

is it a 1.6 or 1.9 motor?
is the shaft from that motor originally?

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Reply #4February 18, 2010, 03:04:41 pm

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Re: Intermediate shaft interference.
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2010, 03:04:41 pm »
yea it's the og shaft. i think i got it figured out after a couple hits with a hammer. lol thanks guys.  ;)
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Reply #5February 18, 2010, 03:42:31 pm

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Re: Intermediate shaft interference.
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2010, 03:42:31 pm »
haha it wasn't in all the way. still turns and came back out. maybe hit was too harsh of a word. how about 2 'gentle love bumps'?? damn machine shop put the bearing with the oil channel facing the wrong way even after i reminded them of it's orientation. might be time for a new machine shop.
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Reply #6February 18, 2010, 09:01:45 pm

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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2010, 09:01:45 pm »
they are. thankfully they are honest.
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Reply #7February 19, 2010, 06:58:07 am

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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2010, 06:58:07 am »
Ok so i'mma take the block back today and i was wondering if anyone knew what a safe clearance would be between the IM shaft bearings and IM shaft? i can't find anything in my bentley about it. I can turn it with a wrench but i can't grab it with my hand and turn it and i would hate for it to get to hot and seize up. thanks.
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Reply #8February 19, 2010, 06:38:29 pm

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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2010, 06:38:29 pm »
Be sure to use a quality seal and install it propery in the IM seal carrier, too!  I know first hand how fast the oil comes out of there when the seal fails... :o
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Reply #9February 19, 2010, 11:31:14 pm

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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2010, 11:31:14 pm »
I've always installed the pre-sized bearings and have always been able to turn them by hand afterward.

X2.

Should spin by hand. Might be a bit tight, but if you can't spin it with the pulley installed, something bad's gonna happen.

Reply #10February 19, 2010, 11:40:27 pm

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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2010, 11:40:27 pm »
Be sure to use a quality seal and install it propery in the IM seal carrier, too!  I know first hand how fast the oil comes out of there when the seal fails... :o

Whenever I've installed an IM seal it seems like it wants to pop out until it's all the way seated so you gotta make sure it's completely in.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
Watch: AGENDA, GRINDING AMERICA DOWN