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Reply #30February 14, 2010, 10:04:31 pm

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Re: mech lifters, more power? how?
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2010, 10:04:31 pm »
are the lobes the same?  the object here is performance. isn't the aaz cam the best available as far as lift etc.?  anyone know a custom cam grinder? ;D
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Reply #31February 14, 2010, 11:31:48 pm

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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2010, 11:31:48 pm »
http://www.oregoncamshaft.com/

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Reply #32February 15, 2010, 07:37:46 am

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Re: mech lifters, more power? how?
« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2010, 07:37:46 am »
are the lobes the same?  the object here is performance. isn't the aaz cam the best available as far as lift etc.?  anyone know a custom cam grinder? ;D

the 1.6 cam is better than the AAZ cam.

and solid lifters require some modifications to make them work right. valves for hydro lifters are shorter.

Reply #33February 15, 2010, 10:07:24 pm

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« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2010, 10:07:24 pm »
If you use the Crespo solid lifters for Hydro heads, no other modification is necessary.

You do have to use the solid lifer lash shims, and have a good assortment when you do it, as the Crespo lifters have a wide variance on required shims.

Find a mechanical 1.6 cam.  Hydro cams don't work good with solid lifters.
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Reply #34February 16, 2010, 07:15:40 am

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« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2010, 07:15:40 am »
ive heard that people like putting the shims under the buckets too on that kinda setup. so they dont fly out when you rev the crap out of the engine.

Reply #35February 16, 2010, 11:54:40 am

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« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2010, 11:54:40 am »
ive heard that people like putting the shims under the buckets too on that kinda setup. so they dont fly out when you rev the crap out of the engine.

now that sounds like fun, the kind of fun I want to be a part of ;)
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you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
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Reply #36February 17, 2010, 08:56:21 am

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« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2010, 08:56:21 am »
ive heard that people like putting the shims under the buckets too on that kinda setup. so they dont fly out when you rev the crap out of the engine.

now that sounds like fun, the kind of fun I want to be a part of ;)

actually, i was referring to missing a shift. theres no way these engines can spin 9000 on their own. going from fifth to second is a good way to over rev your engine and have all the pucks fly out of the buckets.

the bad thing about pucks under the buckets, you have to take the cam out to adjust the valves.

ive turned my engine over 7500 before, and all is well.

Reply #37February 17, 2010, 09:04:40 am

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« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2010, 09:04:40 am »
very rarely will a shim come out due to too many RPM, they usually come out because of a really big cam, catching the edge of the shim with the lobe.

the general fix for that is either to bore out and install wider lifters and shims, or like you said, install flat topped lifters with lash caps under them to adjust.

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Reply #38February 17, 2010, 09:12:03 am

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« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2010, 09:12:03 am »
very rarely will a shim come out due to too many RPM, they usually come out because of a really big cam, catching the edge of the shim with the lobe.

the general fix for that is either to bore out and install wider lifters and shims, or like you said, install flat topped lifters with lash caps under them to adjust.

-Owen

im not saying this is going to happen to everyone, but it has happened.

Reply #39February 17, 2010, 09:19:29 pm

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« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2010, 09:19:29 pm »
good advice, and also great to know ;D
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you know, decarbonated beer is a better coolant than the stuff you buy at the auto store, and is better for you...... really
"If the boost were to rise then the throttle would remain in the wide-open throttle position, which might be fun, but probably not for long"Libbypapa