Author Topic: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?  (Read 3678 times)

February 03, 2010, 05:17:10 pm

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Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« on: February 03, 2010, 05:17:10 pm »
http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/pts/1572680225.html
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thats the engine in question. it looks very VW/Audi to me. but the intake ports are not on the same side as the exhaust. and the oiling system is on the exhaust side of the engine also, like a 5 cyl vw engine. it doesnt have a cam, but it looks like it is the same setup as a VW head, also has 8 threaded holes for holding the valve cover on. oil pressure sender on the back of the head. engine mount in picture looks like the kind that are in my audi. front pulley looks like some crappy stamped steel vw/audi one also.

ok, so i talked to the owner, and its an audi engine, but what the hell is it? how big? and where does the intake go?

also, what kinda block is this? i wasnt aware that vw made an engine with oval pistons.
http://www.ibiblio.org/tkan/audi/audi-misc/oval2.jpg
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Reply #1February 03, 2010, 09:39:38 pm

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Re: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 09:39:38 pm »
Could be a Mercedes engine. They turboed stuff way back.
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Reply #2February 03, 2010, 10:04:04 pm

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Re: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 10:04:04 pm »
for 50 bones buy it, and find out.  Has to be worth more than that to a builder, and maybe the turbo will be useful, or you could just e-mail the guy and ask for better pictures.  Can't use the engine, no oil pan, prolly no rot. assy. and no cam/ cam cover.  I guess its an early water cooled porsche engine.
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Reply #3February 03, 2010, 10:37:13 pm

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Re: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2010, 10:37:13 pm »
If its an Audi, then its a LS100 engine which was used in the Porsche 924? They were a cross flow design.
The turbo and manifold look very strage though.
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Reply #4February 04, 2010, 12:21:32 am

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Re: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2010, 12:21:32 am »
I'm pretty sure it's a 2.0 litre Porsche 924 turbo engine (early '80s).  That funny looking plate on the turbo is a built-in pop-off valve.  That output flange on the turbo bolts on to a cross-over pipe that runs across the valve cover.  Really not a bad engine, but tons of turbo lag (big 'triple K' turbo).  Does not tolerate too much boost very well (e.g. broken rings, blown head gaskets - BTDT).  Based on a VW/Audi design.  Should mount up to pretty much any Audi 5-cylinder-style transmission.  160 HP stock in US, about 220 HP in European trim (intercooler).  The GTR and GTS 924s where making somewhere around 400HP with this basic design.  I don't really know what they're worth these days.  20 years ago a good runner would fetch $1500.
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Reply #5February 04, 2010, 03:46:48 am

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Re: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2010, 03:46:48 am »
AW...poof it's gone...I wanted to play...  :'(
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Reply #6February 04, 2010, 06:38:25 am

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Re: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2010, 06:38:25 am »
YAAAY! I WIN! I guessed Porsche, I WIN! :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D
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Reply #7February 04, 2010, 08:11:02 am

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Re: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2010, 08:11:02 am »
god damn it... i really wanted to buy that thing. i wouldnt have cared if i couldnt use it or not, ive never seen anything like it before in my life.

Reply #8February 04, 2010, 08:27:50 am

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Re: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2010, 08:27:50 am »
Trust me on this one ROR, you do NOT want HIM to do that, and by him, I mean GOD.
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Reply #9February 04, 2010, 10:43:07 am

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Re: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2010, 10:43:07 am »
also, what kinda block is this? i wasnt aware that vw made an engine with oval pistons.
http://www.ibiblio.org/tkan/audi/audi-misc/oval2.jpg

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Reply #10February 04, 2010, 02:35:11 pm

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Re: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2010, 02:35:11 pm »
Anyone saved the pictures?

Reply #11February 05, 2010, 09:13:12 am

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Re: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2010, 09:13:12 am »
nope, but it was goofy looking.

Reply #12February 05, 2010, 03:15:28 pm

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Re: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2010, 03:15:28 pm »
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"In 1990, VW developed a 2.3-liter 4-cylinder diesel engine with oval pistons (well, actually they're elliptical, not oval)"

Didn't Honda spend a fortune on proving the benefits of oval pistons before? This is why we all use them today! ;D

Reply #13February 05, 2010, 03:40:56 pm

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Re: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2010, 03:40:56 pm »
Think honda tried them on motorcycles and such too. probably pricey to machine for production and impossible for avg joe to rebuild ie hone or bore. Interesting concept. gotta keep mind open for new ideas yet understand KISS
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Reply #14February 05, 2010, 05:01:50 pm

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Re: Ready to play "Lets id this engine" again?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2010, 05:01:50 pm »
Honda did pioneer ovals in GP bikes...as I recall, it was a matter of trying to get rings to seat that destroyed the whole idea.
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