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February 01, 2010, 04:10:50 pm

dbk

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emmissions, catalytic convertors, o2 sensors, computers
« on: February 01, 2010, 04:10:50 pm »
can you eliminate the cat on the tdi? Is it tied into the computer through o2 sensors like the gasers ? I am currently running 1992's (have two of them on the road) and have being told I could possibly mount my injection pump on a Tdi when I move up to newer cars making the Tdi mechanically controlled. I have had such good luck with my non electronic VW diesels (started with 1984's), that I cringe at the thought of computers their sensors and controls. 

Reply #1February 01, 2010, 04:31:21 pm

the caveman

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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2010, 04:31:21 pm »
yes you can take the cat off a TDI without any problems. No you can't use your IDI pump on a TDI
" I'm a vegetarian,not because i love animals, it's because i hate plants"
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1971 Super Beetle 140 HP 159 ft lbs
1987 Fox
1989 TD Jetta
1990 Fox
1989 Fox
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Reply #2February 01, 2010, 07:09:38 pm

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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2010, 07:09:38 pm »
I too faced the TDI world with a bit of trepidation.

You can have a mechanical TDI pump (called an "mTDI") that eliminates the electronics, although you would then need to figure out how to mount a different throttle pedal cluster, throttle cable, etc etc etc.

Or... you can accept the electronics and learn to love them, as I have. ;D

I've found the TDI to be an extremely robust system that takes care of itself very well, tells you exactly what's wrong with it when it has issues, and allows you a ton of tuning and tweaking ability from the comfort of the front seat.

The one caveat... like most systems having the right tools makes all the difference... in the case of the TDI you have to consider Vag-Com and a cheap laptop just as important as your set of metric sockets.
Vince

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Gone but not forgotten: 1969/1971 Beetles, 1969/1974 Westies, 1979 Rabbit, 1986 TD Jetta, 1992 gas Jetta, 1994 TD Jetta

Reply #3February 02, 2010, 04:19:05 pm

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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2010, 04:19:05 pm »
As usual i completely agree with Vincent. I found the mid TDI's - like the AHU to be pretty reliable and easy to fix .
" I'm a vegetarian,not because i love animals, it's because i hate plants"
1970 Type 3 fastback
1972 Renault 12
1971 Super Beetle 140 HP 159 ft lbs
1987 Fox
1989 TD Jetta
1990 Fox
1989 Fox
1998 TDI Jetta
1990 T3 German MIL Transporter 1.9 na Giles super pump
1997 Jetta GLX TDI

Reply #4February 04, 2010, 02:57:39 pm

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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2010, 02:57:39 pm »
The big disadvantage to an electronic throttle is the lag. With a mechanical Diesel you have instant response.