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best Turbo
by
T-hane
on 12 Nov, 2005 20:03
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What is the best turbo to put on a 1.6 that is a direct bolt on and will see good all around results
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#1
by
Dr. Diesel
on 12 Nov, 2005 20:41
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for boosts less than 10 psi, i'd say one of the smaller units from a 1.9L. for higher boosts, i'd vote on a k24.
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#2
by
T-hane
on 12 Nov, 2005 21:37
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I would like to run as much boost as i can with-out an inter cooler what kind of boost can you make with the k24
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#3
by
935racer
on 12 Nov, 2005 22:33
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You can run 35psi with a k24 but its effeciency drops off around 22 or something, I haven't seen a map for one of those in a long time. I would run the k24 with a 2.5" dp and mandrel bent exhaust all the way back.
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#4
by
SMOKEYDUB
on 13 Nov, 2005 12:40
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DON"T run high boost without an intercooler for long periods of time. I pulled apart my td after running it for a while at 20 psi without an intercooler and you can see that the piston got hot enough to distort. I would run like 12 psi max on a k24 without an intercooler. And also i believe the K24 looses most of its efficiency at 18 psi and the garret is 23psi. Not sur about the smaller turbos but they sure are fun for out of the hole boosting
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#5
by
T-hane
on 13 Nov, 2005 12:55
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So do you think that you will stick with the K24
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#6
by
935racer
on 13 Nov, 2005 13:23
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This is why you ned an EGT gauge, don't even start tuning your diesel with out one, you can run 20 psi non intercooled just fine just make sure your egts are in check. However getting an intercooler will make a world of differnce in dropping your EGT's which means you can add more fuel :twisted:
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#7
by
T-hane
on 13 Nov, 2005 14:26
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are the 8v turbo manifolds a direct bolt on for the 1.6
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#8
by
935racer
on 13 Nov, 2005 14:32
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Yes they bolt on but there are many differnt styles so you need to be a little more specific. Some of them create turbo to firewall clearance issues. Some 8v manifolds also have differnt turbo flanges on them as well.
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#9
by
therabbittree
on 13 Nov, 2005 19:31
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I second that ... EGT gauge pre turbo is amust on any turbo diesel.... heck i ran 35psi on my old kkk24 and 12mm pump egts never got out of hand if they started to get hot i would let off...don't remove the oil cooler and run a turbo diesel though the oil temp is very very high with out as the oil squirters and the turbo drain..raise the temp ALOT with out a oil cooler..i tryed that years ago...ha..you could watch it climb close to 300 degrees like a snap of the fingers and it takes a long time for the oil to cool..haha
get gausges as soon as you buy a turbo diesel..its mandatory ..check egts while driving and to let the turbo cool down when shutting down the engine...
later
Deo
\x/ Hillfolk!
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#10
by
T-hane
on 14 Nov, 2005 00:37
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what would be the best manifold and turbo too upgrade from the k24 with inner cooler and plans to use the 1.9 head in the future. And with nothing too crazy either like a turbo off a cummins.
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#11
by
935racer
on 14 Nov, 2005 01:02
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There aren't any performance manifolds to get at this time for these engine a ported cast one does the trick, for an upgraded turbo I would go t3/t4.
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#12
by
vwmike
on 14 Nov, 2005 01:19
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There aren't any performance manifolds to get at this time for these engine a ported cast one does the trick, for an upgraded turbo I would go t3/t4.
What T3/T4 have you been eyeballing? I haven't found any that would produce the kind of boost required without going past the surge limit. Are there some maps out there I haven't found?
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#13
by
T-hane
on 14 Nov, 2005 01:20
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What trim of a t-3 turbo and dose this bolt to the stock manifold
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#14
by
935racer
on 14 Nov, 2005 02:26
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I am thinking about using a .48 trim t3 from a mb turbo diesel and putting a t04e50 compressor side on it. I am still exploring my options though Gonna put one ogether for malone to get some big #'s. The .48 mb housing just needs an adaptor for the manifold you could make a small t3 t4 using the stock garret t3.