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January 16, 2010, 09:02:07 am

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IP installation
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I am going to reseal my pump and reinstall it.  When taking out the pump, I inserted the IP pin to lock the timing with piston #1 at TDC and the flywheel mark lined up with the sight hole.  But here is my problem, the timing belt was out of timing by a couple of teeth, and I don't have any prior history of the car.  I don't know if the IP was installed 180 degrees off because there are two holes where the IP lock pin can go into.  Even though piston #1 is at TDC and the flywheel mark is seen through the transmission hole, the IP can still be 180 degrees off.
When I reinstall it, does the hole with the woodruff key face towards the IP lock pin or 180 degrees opposite of the IP lock pin?

Thank You

Reply #1January 16, 2010, 09:07:09 am

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Re: IP installation
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2010, 09:07:09 am »
More or less faces the hole.
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Reply #2January 16, 2010, 09:13:24 am

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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2010, 09:13:24 am »
The woodruff key more or less faces the lock pin hole?

Reply #3January 16, 2010, 09:23:58 am

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Re: IP installation
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2010, 09:23:58 am »
When I reinstall it, does the hole with the woodruff key face towards the IP lock pin or 180 degrees opposite of the IP lock pin?

More or less faces towards the lock pin hole as opposed to 180 degrees in the opposite direction  ;)

Stated a different way... the key should be at about 11:00 o'clock.
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Reply #4January 16, 2010, 11:09:09 am

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Re: IP installation
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2010, 11:09:09 am »
OK, then the woodruff key is further away from the lock pin hole rather than closer to it?
If that is correct, then I will install the IP the same way.

Reply #5January 17, 2010, 10:23:01 am

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Re: IP installation
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2010, 10:23:01 am »
I am going to reseal my pump and reinstall it.  When taking out the pump, I inserted the IP pin to lock the timing with piston #1 at TDC and the flywheel mark lined up with the sight hole.  But here is my problem, the timing belt was out of timing by a couple of teeth, and I don't have any prior history of the car.  I don't know if the IP was installed 180 degrees off because there are two holes where the IP lock pin can go into.  Even though piston #1 is at TDC and the flywheel mark is seen through the transmission hole, the IP can still be 180 degrees off.
When I reinstall it, does the hole with the woodruff key face towards the IP lock pin or 180 degrees opposite of the IP lock pin?

Thank You

that happened to me. the keyway faces towards the valve cover, not where the pin is.

Reply #6January 17, 2010, 11:24:02 pm

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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2010, 11:24:02 pm »

The sprocket on my IP (1981 1.6 N/A) has a little marker on it that looks like an arrowhead.  There is a similar mark on the IP and the IP mounting bracket.  All three marks roughly line up at cylinder 1 TDC (with the sprocket pointer on top).  Look closely at the pump side of the IP sprocket and you should find the marker. 
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