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December 01, 2009, 04:18:03 pm

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What shifter parts 4 to 5 speed for Rabbit.
« on: December 01, 2009, 04:18:03 pm »
Hello all.

Just drove my Caddy. During the installation of the 1.6 TD I swapped over to a 5 speed. What do I need from the doner Jetta MKI to get the gears in the right gates?? All the linkage was the same except the relay lever on the four speed was smaller, and the suurounding cage. Do I just need the shifter or is there more? Not a lot in FAQ on this.
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Reply #1December 01, 2009, 06:35:21 pm

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Re: What shifter parts 4 to 5 speed for Rabbit.
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 06:35:21 pm »
If it was a four speed you will need the shifter plate# 171 711 261 C 51.00 from a vw dealer to start with
you will also need a 5 speed trans mount as the mk1 is different 

I did the same and purchased a 5 speed rebuild kit from ebayor rabbitparts.com and a I got the 5 speed short shifter arm from techtonicstuning with the down pipe , I do have a extra one if you need it and a new leather 5 speed shift knob also

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« Last Edit: December 01, 2009, 06:44:32 pm by GEE-BEE »
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Giles Pump OHC
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Coilovers, MKII Pedal Swap,G60 BRAKES
MK1 JETTA DASH
675MM 16V radiator (MKII) PASSAT DUAL FAN
42K original miles , South African Front End
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Reply #2December 01, 2009, 07:00:35 pm

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Re: What shifter parts 4 to 5 speed for Rabbit.
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 07:00:35 pm »
Maybe this will help



It's been years since I did my 4 to 5 speed swap.

I think that the selector lever and rear selector rod and front selector rad are the only pieces that you have to change. I know that I didn't change the shifter plate although I have heard that it is necessary in order to get enough travel between R and 5

The selector shaft is different but that more then likely comes on the transmission already.

I like BEE GEEs idea of purchasing the 5 speed rebuild kit.
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Reply #3December 01, 2009, 07:46:16 pm

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Re: What shifter parts 4 to 5 speed for Rabbit.
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 07:46:16 pm »
That's Gee-Bee not Bee-Gee if it was id be singing and not on this site !

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1.9 AAZ, CHD 5spd with Peloquin
KO4/KO3 Hybrid turbo
Giles Pump OHC
Complete Techtonics 2'5 S/S DP and Exhaust
Coilovers, MKII Pedal Swap,G60 BRAKES
MK1 JETTA DASH
675MM 16V radiator (MKII) PASSAT DUAL FAN
42K original miles , South African Front End
15x6 Le Casletts 195-45-15

Reply #4December 01, 2009, 11:12:36 pm

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Re: What shifter parts 4 to 5 speed for Rabbit.
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2009, 11:12:36 pm »
Opps sorry.
Tyler

Reply #5December 02, 2009, 08:48:42 am

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Re: What shifter parts 4 to 5 speed for Rabbit.
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 08:48:42 am »
Ok. I'll be swapping the selector lever, and relay lever today, and see what I got. When you say shifter plate do you mean the actual base with the plastic ball??  Also Im almost done with stripping the MK1 Jetta for what i need, so I will post the remainder in the for sale section if anyone is needing body parts, and such.
Thanks for the input.
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Reply #6December 02, 2009, 12:03:08 pm

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Re: What shifter parts 4 to 5 speed for Rabbit.
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 12:03:08 pm »
the plate on the floorboard is the shifter plate, some people grind them to fit the 5 speed plate

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1.9 AAZ, CHD 5spd with Peloquin
KO4/KO3 Hybrid turbo
Giles Pump OHC
Complete Techtonics 2'5 S/S DP and Exhaust
Coilovers, MKII Pedal Swap,G60 BRAKES
MK1 JETTA DASH
675MM 16V radiator (MKII) PASSAT DUAL FAN
42K original miles , South African Front End
15x6 Le Casletts 195-45-15

Reply #7December 04, 2009, 06:38:38 pm

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Re: What shifter parts 4 to 5 speed for Rabbit.
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2009, 06:38:38 pm »
Selector lever, and relay lever swapped. 5 gears+reverse. On to exhaust.
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1983 Volvo 245 D24 NA Building D24T
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Reply #8December 04, 2009, 09:38:22 pm

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Re: What shifter parts 4 to 5 speed for Rabbit.
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2009, 09:38:22 pm »
GET A TECHTONIC'S TUNING S/S 2.5 DOWNPIPE AND THEY WILL MAKE YOU A COMPLETE 2.5 EXHAUST ALSO
ASK FOR jOSH

THEY HAVE A DP FOR THE T3 MK1 CADDY
1.9 AAZ, CHD 5spd with Peloquin
KO4/KO3 Hybrid turbo
Giles Pump OHC
Complete Techtonics 2'5 S/S DP and Exhaust
Coilovers, MKII Pedal Swap,G60 BRAKES
MK1 JETTA DASH
675MM 16V radiator (MKII) PASSAT DUAL FAN
42K original miles , South African Front End
15x6 Le Casletts 195-45-15

Reply #9December 04, 2009, 09:55:20 pm

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Re: What shifter parts 4 to 5 speed for Rabbit.
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2009, 09:55:20 pm »
Glad to hear you got it. It took me weeks to get it figured out and shifting decently when I did it.
Tyler

Reply #10December 05, 2009, 03:30:45 pm

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Re: What shifter parts 4 to 5 speed for Rabbit.
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2009, 03:30:45 pm »
GET A TECHTONIC'S TUNING S/S 2.5 DOWNPIPE AND THEY WILL MAKE YOU A COMPLETE 2.5 EXHAUST ALSO
ASK FOR jOSH

THEY HAVE A DP FOR THE T3 MK1 CADDY
Made a down pipe already from scrap systems from an exhaust shop. $300.00 + is a bit much. Mine is not as pretty but works.
1980 Caddy TD (Always in progress)
1983 Volvo 245 D24 NA Building D24T
1980 Air-cooled Westy
1956 F100 (What to do???))

Reply #11December 05, 2009, 11:54:17 pm

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Re: What shifter parts 4 to 5 speed for Rabbit.
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2009, 11:54:17 pm »
Is long as it's at least a 2'5 your good..

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1.9 AAZ, CHD 5spd with Peloquin
KO4/KO3 Hybrid turbo
Giles Pump OHC
Complete Techtonics 2'5 S/S DP and Exhaust
Coilovers, MKII Pedal Swap,G60 BRAKES
MK1 JETTA DASH
675MM 16V radiator (MKII) PASSAT DUAL FAN
42K original miles , South African Front End
15x6 Le Casletts 195-45-15

Reply #12December 07, 2009, 08:32:03 am

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Re: What shifter parts 4 to 5 speed for Rabbit.
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2009, 08:32:03 am »
Im about a quarter inch shy of 2.5, (inside diameter) but I have under 50 bucks in it. A lot of time though. I am really after mileage and the ability to at least maintain the speed limit up most hills on the highway.
1980 Caddy TD (Always in progress)
1983 Volvo 245 D24 NA Building D24T
1980 Air-cooled Westy
1956 F100 (What to do???))

 

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