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November 23, 2009, 08:11:25 am

54321chris

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replace head gasket when installing ARP?
« on: November 23, 2009, 08:11:25 am »
I'm planning on installing ARP head studs on my 1.6td while I have my car out of commission, and I am wondering if I need to replace the head gasket when doing this.  I put a 1.9 metal hg on it just a few months ago.  I'm not planning on pulling the head.



Reply #1November 23, 2009, 08:29:27 am

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Re: replace head gasket when installing ARP?
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 08:29:27 am »
I would.
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Reply #2November 23, 2009, 08:51:21 am

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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2009, 08:51:21 am »
I didn't.  I had a HG leak.  I de-torqued the stretch bolts gradually, kept some snug tension on them once loosened, then replaced them one at a time in the sequence with ARP's.  Brought it back up gradually, no more leak.
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Reply #3November 23, 2009, 08:59:56 am

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Re: replace head gasket when installing ARP?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 08:59:56 am »
Thanks guys.  Anyone else with opinion or experience?

Reply #4November 23, 2009, 12:02:11 pm

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Re: replace head gasket when installing ARP?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2009, 12:02:11 pm »
Headgaskets are considered single-use by VW and I'd agree, since they squish a bit as they are torqued.  For 40 bucks I always replace 'em... cheap insurance and one less thing to worry about when you are roaring down the highway.
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Reply #5November 23, 2009, 04:25:34 pm

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Re: replace head gasket when installing ARP?
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2009, 04:25:34 pm »
Headgaskets are considered single-use by VW and I'd agree, since they squish a bit as they are torqued.  For 40 bucks I always replace 'em... cheap insurance and one less thing to worry about when you are roaring down the highway.

Agreed. It's good preventative maintenance while you are already in there.
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Reply #6November 23, 2009, 07:11:58 pm

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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2009, 07:11:58 pm »
I heard of leaving them all torqued and completely de-torquing one at a time and replacing..

Safe or not?

Reply #7November 23, 2009, 11:55:31 pm

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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2009, 11:55:31 pm »
I can't speak for anyone else, just for what I did and what worked for me.
I de-torqued the stretch bolts as gradually as I could in the standard pattern, but kept the final tension to 20 ft-lbs.  I replaced them one at a time with the head being unmoved and under 20 ft-lbs tension from either the bolts or the studs, until I got all of the studs installed.  I brought them up 10 lbs at a time till I hit 80 (with the molly grease).  I ran it with coolant cap off until up to operating temp. Let it cool and re- torqued one last time to 90 and left it there.  Works fine for me.  YMMV.
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