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Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
by
gigaz2
on 21 Nov, 2009 16:12
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the holy pump just arrived from germany
11mm plunger, good camplate, accelerator position sensor (for the vnt controller), sweet
has anybody fitted one of these before?
any issues?
other problem:
the only injectors I have available at the moment are .187 from a audi AAT, are these too small for starting this thing?
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#1
by
golftd412000
on 22 Nov, 2009 06:32
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it's a good pump and the came plate is the hightest namedtintin have tested this came in her tdi-m
in my tdim 11mm with the .187 i broken my head at 4000tr/mn
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#2
by
gigaz2
on 22 Nov, 2009 08:26
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ouch! too much pressure then
I'll be using them to start the engine, then get something bigger, around .260
I was also considering .290 but the spray should be really bad on those
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#3
by
gigaz2
on 22 Nov, 2009 08:49
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damn!
the nose where the pulley goes seems correct, but the body of the pump needs a 68mm hole to be mounted, vw uses 50mm
now.. make a frankenpump from a vw body and kia inner parts, or just machine the kia pump without even opening it?
I'm considering machining as my first option
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#4
by
gigaz2
on 22 Nov, 2009 10:44
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left: vp37 right:KIA
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#5
by
golftd412000
on 22 Nov, 2009 12:53
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the .187 it's good for the start not the performance.
take à fiat croma tdid pump it's same body with 20... axe
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#6
by
gigaz2
on 22 Nov, 2009 13:23
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if I could find a fiat pump I would use it, but this was the best I could get.
this also has a 20mm axel
I'm thinking about filling the spaces with aluminium (with a TIG) then machining the case to 50mm
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#7
by
blackdogvan
on 22 Nov, 2009 13:33
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I think they are very similar to the rover pumps. I machined my aaz pump bracket to accept the larger nose & using ALH pump nose parts everything lined up perfect. I also swapped out my aaz delivery valves as the LR ones were 1cm longer & the injector lines didn't line up.
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#8
by
gigaz2
on 22 Nov, 2009 18:01
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thats also a good idea, and safer, I have a few 1.6TD brackets that should fit the 1z, could machine one of those without a problem.
if anything goes wrong, I'll still have the 1Z bracket
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#9
by
lord_verminaard
on 23 Nov, 2009 10:32
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What's the Kia application for that pump? Just adding to my list of ebay searches.
Brendan
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#10
by
gigaz2
on 23 Nov, 2009 16:27
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#11
by
Baxter
on 24 Nov, 2009 18:00
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AAZ pumps, there are a few variants (I stopped counting at 14 different part numbers) but the crap one, the one with the PWM modulated timing advance control on the bottom has a bigger mounting hole, unsure of the size but I have a spare at work, if I ever remember I will dig it out and measure it, but it's for the pumps with the vernier pulley to set the timing, infact, thinking about it, the later T4 (Eurovan to you lot) has a similar pump, so i should imaging brackets from the "ABL" coded engine could also be suitable.
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#12
by
burn_your_money
on 03 Dec, 2009 20:58
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The VW pumps with 2 piece pulleys use a 68mm mounting
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#13
by
oldskool rich
on 03 Dec, 2009 21:18
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whats the difference between urs and a discovery pump?
i didnt totaly follow ur bracket issue but VW use lucas pumps on some engines they have a bigger hole, thats what i used for my disco 1Z, if thats what u meen, i also used the pully off an ALH slightly modified
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#14
by
gigaz2
on 04 Dec, 2009 14:33
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thanks guys! I'm now searching for a bracket
