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November 21, 2009, 04:12:27 pm

gigaz2

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Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« on: November 21, 2009, 04:12:27 pm »
the holy pump just arrived from germany  ;D

11mm plunger, good camplate, accelerator position sensor (for the vnt controller), sweet

has anybody fitted one of these before?
any issues?

other problem:
the only injectors I have available at the moment are .187 from a audi AAT, are these too small for starting this thing?


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Reply #1November 22, 2009, 06:32:10 am

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Re: Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2009, 06:32:10 am »
it's a good pump and the came plate is the hightest namedtintin have tested this came in her tdi-m

in my tdim 11mm with the .187 i broken my head at 4000tr/mn

Reply #2November 22, 2009, 08:26:43 am

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Re: Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2009, 08:26:43 am »
ouch! too much pressure then :(

I'll be using them to start the engine, then get something bigger, around .260
I was also considering .290 but the spray should be really bad on those
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Reply #3November 22, 2009, 08:49:22 am

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Re: Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2009, 08:49:22 am »
damn!  >:(

the nose where the pulley goes seems correct, but the body of the pump needs a 68mm hole to be mounted, vw uses 50mm

now.. make a frankenpump from a vw body and kia inner parts, or just machine the kia pump without even opening it?
I'm considering machining as my first option
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Reply #4November 22, 2009, 10:44:29 am

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Re: Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2009, 10:44:29 am »


left: vp37     right:KIA
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Reply #5November 22, 2009, 12:53:42 pm

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Re: Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2009, 12:53:42 pm »
the .187 it's good for the start not the performance.

take fiat croma tdid pump it's same body with 20... axe

Reply #6November 22, 2009, 01:23:47 pm

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Re: Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2009, 01:23:47 pm »
if I could find a fiat pump I would use it, but this was the best I could get.
this also has a 20mm axel

I'm thinking about filling the spaces with aluminium (with a TIG) then machining the case to 50mm
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Reply #7November 22, 2009, 01:33:09 pm

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Re: Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2009, 01:33:09 pm »
I think they are very similar to the rover pumps. I machined my aaz pump bracket to accept the larger nose & using ALH pump nose parts everything lined up perfect. I also swapped out my aaz delivery valves as the LR ones were 1cm longer & the injector lines didn't line up.
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Reply #8November 22, 2009, 06:01:13 pm

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Re: Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2009, 06:01:13 pm »
thats also a good idea, and safer, I have a few 1.6TD brackets that should fit the 1z, could machine one of those without a problem.
if anything goes wrong, I'll still have the 1Z bracket
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Reply #9November 23, 2009, 10:32:34 am

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Re: Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2009, 10:32:34 am »
What's the Kia application for that pump?  Just adding to my list of ebay searches.  ;)

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Reply #10November 23, 2009, 04:27:03 pm

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Re: Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2009, 04:27:03 pm »
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200398378764&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

pure luck, I've searched many times, but this time it was the first result :D


EDIT: KIA Carnival I 2,9 Diesel Bj.2001

its a 2.9L dohc mTDI rated at 144 PS (142 hp SAE/106 kW)
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Reply #11November 24, 2009, 06:00:12 pm

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Re: Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2009, 06:00:12 pm »
AAZ pumps, there are a few variants (I stopped counting at 14 different part numbers) but the crap one, the one with the PWM modulated timing advance control on the bottom has a bigger mounting hole, unsure of the size but I have a spare at work, if I ever remember I will dig it out and measure it, but it's for the pumps with the vernier pulley to set the timing, infact, thinking about it, the later T4 (Eurovan to you lot) has a similar pump, so i should imaging brackets from the "ABL" coded engine could also be suitable.


Reply #12December 03, 2009, 08:58:55 pm

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Re: Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2009, 08:58:55 pm »
The VW pumps with 2 piece pulleys use a 68mm mounting
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Reply #13December 03, 2009, 09:18:56 pm

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Re: Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2009, 09:18:56 pm »
whats the difference between urs and a discovery pump?

i didnt totaly follow ur bracket issue but VW use lucas pumps on some engines they have a bigger hole, thats what i used for my disco 1Z, if thats what u meen, i also used the pully off an ALH slightly modified


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Reply #14December 04, 2009, 02:33:44 pm

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Re: Kia mtdi pump on 1Z
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2009, 02:33:44 pm »
thanks guys! I'm now searching for a bracket :D
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