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November 07, 2009, 02:04:51 pm

the caveman

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Setting IP with dial gauge -Specs found !
« on: November 07, 2009, 02:04:51 pm »
This is a follow up to a post i did in troubleshooting. i am have problems getting a rebuilt pump to run on a 1997 passat. I am looking for any reference as to what i can set the pump at with a gauge [like am IDI] before running it and setting the timing with my vag-com.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2009, 02:40:45 pm by the caveman »
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1970 Type 3 fastback
1972 Renault 12
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1990 Fox
1989 Fox
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Reply #1November 09, 2009, 04:07:19 pm

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Re: Setting IP with dial gauge
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2009, 04:07:19 pm »
Well i will  be certain to post what i find.
" I'm a vegetarian,not because i love animals, it's because i hate plants"
1970 Type 3 fastback
1972 Renault 12
1971 Super Beetle 140 HP 159 ft lbs
1987 Fox
1989 TD Jetta
1990 Fox
1989 Fox
1998 TDI Jetta
1990 T3 German MIL Transporter 1.9 na Giles super pump
1997 Jetta GLX TDI

Reply #2November 13, 2009, 02:40:24 pm

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Re: Setting IP with dial gauge Specs found !
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2009, 02:40:24 pm »
Okay i won't mention here how i got it running BUT i did find a tech bulletin for my question. Tech bulletin group 23 #97-03 from august 15 1997 mentions that it can be set at .7mm + or - .05 mm. Problem is that the size of the fitting on the pump isn't the same as an IDI pump. The early pumps [and the tool] have a thread of 8mm with a 1.0 pitch where as the TDI [at least the 1Z passat i was working on ] has a thread of 10 mm with a 1.0 pitch. I will make a tool  adaptor in the future , but at least there is some sort of spec for it.
See my post in troubleshooting for the " fix "
" I'm a vegetarian,not because i love animals, it's because i hate plants"
1970 Type 3 fastback
1972 Renault 12
1971 Super Beetle 140 HP 159 ft lbs
1987 Fox
1989 TD Jetta
1990 Fox
1989 Fox
1998 TDI Jetta
1990 T3 German MIL Transporter 1.9 na Giles super pump
1997 Jetta GLX TDI

Reply #3November 14, 2009, 10:26:09 am

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Re: Setting IP with dial gauge Specs found !
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2009, 10:26:09 am »
Problem is that the size of the fitting on the pump isn't the same as an IDI pump. The TDI has a thread of 10 mm with a 1.0 pitch.

All of the TDI pumps we have in the shop use this style.
Tyler

Reply #4November 14, 2009, 10:44:13 am

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Re: Setting IP with dial gauge -Specs found !
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2009, 10:44:13 am »
Which stlye are you talking about ? the fitting for the gauge tool ?
BTW how's my pump coming along ,if you actually got my old one  yet ?
" I'm a vegetarian,not because i love animals, it's because i hate plants"
1970 Type 3 fastback
1972 Renault 12
1971 Super Beetle 140 HP 159 ft lbs
1987 Fox
1989 TD Jetta
1990 Fox
1989 Fox
1998 TDI Jetta
1990 T3 German MIL Transporter 1.9 na Giles super pump
1997 Jetta GLX TDI

Reply #5November 14, 2009, 01:05:42 pm

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Re: Setting IP with dial gauge -Specs found !
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2009, 01:05:42 pm »
Brake line fittings are M10x1.
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Reply #6November 14, 2009, 01:08:20 pm

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Re: Setting IP with dial gauge -Specs found !
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2009, 01:08:20 pm »
...as are oil pressure and coolant temp sensors.  An old brake fitting / sensor and an 8mmx1 tap builds you an adapter.  ;)
Vince

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Reply #7November 14, 2009, 07:19:16 pm

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Re: Setting IP with dial gauge -Specs found !
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2009, 07:19:16 pm »
Your pump is almost built. It should be on the test stand on monday.
Tyler

Reply #8November 15, 2009, 07:21:51 am

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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2009, 07:21:51 am »
Vincent and Baxter-thanks. I may fit one up for the future. But i/m wondering if i'll ever run into such a problem again. Of course i shouldn't talk too soon, there will probably be one in this week.
And Tyler-AWESOME !
" I'm a vegetarian,not because i love animals, it's because i hate plants"
1970 Type 3 fastback
1972 Renault 12
1971 Super Beetle 140 HP 159 ft lbs
1987 Fox
1989 TD Jetta
1990 Fox
1989 Fox
1998 TDI Jetta
1990 T3 German MIL Transporter 1.9 na Giles super pump
1997 Jetta GLX TDI

Reply #9December 09, 2009, 08:52:31 pm

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Re: Setting IP with dial gauge -Specs found !
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 08:52:31 pm »
I do it often in the past with a dial indicator, usually between .70 to 1.00mm

The adaptor for TDI already exist in some kit, I see it on Ebay.