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November 06, 2009, 01:03:56 pm

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Getting rid of the A/C Compressor
« on: November 06, 2009, 01:03:56 pm »
My 1991 Jetta 1.6 N/A's A/C was a basket case when I bought the car, no biggie.  I yanked everything A/C out but I still have the compressor installed to spin the Alt.  The car also has power steering.

Can anyone please tell me EXACTLY what I will need to remove the compressor and still be able to spin the alt and P/S pump?  (I know the P/S is spun by the crank/water pump, but I think there are different brackets).

I have looked at the brackets on a non- A/C engine, but it also did not have P/S so I don't think those brackets would work.

thanks
Steve

91 Jetta 1.6 N/A

Reply #1November 06, 2009, 01:57:50 pm

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Re: Getting rid of the A/C Compressor
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2009, 01:57:50 pm »
You need a different alternator and a lower tensioning bracket for the alternator. I'm not sure how the pulleys will play out for the WP or PS but I suspect that they could stay the same.
Tyler

Reply #2November 06, 2009, 02:29:06 pm

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Re: Getting rid of the A/C Compressor
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 02:29:06 pm »
Thank you.  Do you know of a supplier of these parts?
Steve

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Reply #3November 06, 2009, 02:29:59 pm

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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2009, 02:29:59 pm »
craigslist, vortex and here...
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Reply #4November 06, 2009, 07:31:53 pm

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Re: Getting rid of the A/C Compressor
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 07:31:53 pm »
Thank you very much.  I'll keep my eyes open.

By the way, would a non a/c alt pulley work on my alt?
Steve

91 Jetta 1.6 N/A

Reply #5November 07, 2009, 07:08:35 am

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Re: Getting rid of the A/C Compressor
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2009, 07:08:35 am »
im looking at doing the same thing. i thought about just swapping the pulleys over from a non ac alt to an alt with ac. i kinda wanna put a supercharger where it sits right now.

Reply #6November 07, 2009, 12:48:20 pm

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Re: Getting rid of the A/C Compressor
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2009, 12:48:20 pm »
A blower would be nice, but right now I just want that damned compressor out of my engine bay!
Steve

91 Jetta 1.6 N/A

Reply #7November 08, 2009, 07:12:25 am

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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 07:12:25 am »
me too. i dont like packing that thing around with me everywhere i go. my ac dont work, so i wanna pull it all out. and besides, i use ac like 3 times a year, that just doesnt justify having it.

Reply #8November 08, 2009, 02:22:31 pm

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Re: Getting rid of the A/C Compressor
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2009, 02:22:31 pm »
 I am the 3rd owner on this car and the first owner had an issue with the electric fan and just wired it to a switch mounted in the dash.  When I bought the car I had to be careful to watch the temp gage and turn the fan on if it started to get hot.  When I pulled the A/C stuff out I yanked the condenser as well and then blew compressed air through the radiator.  About 2 pounts of sand and crap came out of the fins on the rad.  After that I could drive just about anywhere I wanted and didn't have to touch the fan switch, unless I wnet up a long steep hill in the summer.  On top of all of that my Frybrid kit uses coolant right off the head to heat the VO and that causes me to use the fan even less!

I can't stand the compressor.  Its a PITA for changing the alt belt and its just extra weight that I don't want to haul around.  If I find a non A/C alt pulley I will install it and see if it will work.  If it does I'll let you know.
Steve

91 Jetta 1.6 N/A

Reply #9November 08, 2009, 06:19:17 pm

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Re: Getting rid of the A/C Compressor
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2009, 06:19:17 pm »
I did an AC-ectomy on Jezebel during the summer.  I had to replace the alternator and change the lower alternator bracket over to the non-AC one.  The bracket and all the bolts and things are still available through the dealer - I got it all brand new.

No issues with the other pulleys or anything, it was all pretty straightforward once I had the right bracket and alternator!
Bryn

1994 Jetta - AHU M-TDI - Jezebel Jetta
2004 Jetta Wagon - 1.8T - Blitzen

Reply #10November 13, 2009, 09:17:56 am

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Re: Getting rid of the A/C Compressor
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2009, 09:17:56 am »
I did an AC-ectomy on Jezebel during the summer.  I had to replace the alternator and change the lower alternator bracket over to the non-AC one.  The bracket and all the bolts and things are still available through the dealer - I got it all brand new.

No issues with the other pulleys or anything, it was all pretty straightforward once I had the right bracket and alternator!

If you don't mind me asking, what did the dealler charge you for the parts?
thanks
Steve

91 Jetta 1.6 N/A

Reply #11November 13, 2009, 02:59:52 pm

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Re: Getting rid of the A/C Compressor
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2009, 02:59:52 pm »
For the money and time , It's hard to beat the kit on VW vortex ( serpentine belt ) includes bracket and alternator...

Gee-Bee

I'am doing the opposite, Installing a scirocco condenser and 16V radiator with a new style compressor
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Reply #12November 14, 2009, 11:23:04 pm

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Re: Getting rid of the A/C Compressor
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2009, 11:23:04 pm »
Pull the compressor and front adjuster bracket.
 Rotate the alternator downward.
 get a dual pully from a ???'97 Ford truck,.. that will get it out there far enough.
 I had to grind on the bracket some, so I could rotate the alternator downward farther and use a shorter belt.

Then, for the adjuster:
Bolt an adjuster bar from a '91 Golf gasser to your alternator,..
 and use your (cut down) upper adjustment bracket to bridge from this bracket to the stock alternator bracket.

... and it's still 90 amps.
 Easier to do a search on vwdieselparts.com, using my name,.. or it was recently brought back up and there are several links in a thread.
 Done several years ago and is still running great.
Tornado red, '91 Golf 4 door, with M-TDI 12mm pump, south bend clutch, VNT-15 turbo, 02A trany
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Reply #13November 16, 2009, 12:04:01 am

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Re: Getting rid of the A/C Compressor
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2009, 12:04:01 am »
I did an AC-ectomy on Jezebel during the summer.  I had to replace the alternator and change the lower alternator bracket over to the non-AC one.  The bracket and all the bolts and things are still available through the dealer - I got it all brand new.

No issues with the other pulleys or anything, it was all pretty straightforward once I had the right bracket and alternator!

If you don't mind me asking, what did the dealer charge you for the parts?
thanks

I bought the bracket and all the original VW bolts at the dealer - price was about $60 CDN. 

I got a non-AC alternator pulley from a forum member for about $5 and I bought a new alternator at a local parts store for about $90...

Not the cheapest, but it's all done RIGHT with the correct parts.
Bryn

1994 Jetta - AHU M-TDI - Jezebel Jetta
2004 Jetta Wagon - 1.8T - Blitzen

Reply #14November 16, 2009, 07:40:16 am

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Re: Getting rid of the A/C Compressor
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2009, 07:40:16 am »
Pull the compressor and front adjuster bracket.
 Rotate the alternator downward.
 get a dual pully from a ???'97 Ford truck,.. that will get it out there far enough.
 I had to grind on the bracket some, so I could rotate the alternator downward farther and use a shorter belt.

Then, for the adjuster:
Bolt an adjuster bar from a '91 Golf gasser to your alternator,..
 and use your (cut down) upper adjustment bracket to bridge from this bracket to the stock alternator bracket.

... and it's still 90 amps.
 Easier to do a search on vwdieselparts.com, using my name,.. or it was recently brought back up and there are several links in a thread.
 Done several years ago and is still running great.

i think i like this way the best. how many amp alternators do mk2 gas cars have? because all my mk2 alts are off gas cars.