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#15
by
truckinwagen
on 06 Dec, 2009 23:21
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I like Lucas Oil Stabilizer, up to 30% of the oil.
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#16
by
8v-of-fury
on 06 Dec, 2009 23:22
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I like Lucas Oil Stabilizer, up to 30% of the oil.
I have used it in much smaller doses.. I will try it. Maybe 3 liters 15w40 oil, 1 liter Lucas stabilizer.
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#17
by
truckinwagen
on 06 Dec, 2009 23:29
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30% is the recommended maximum for the lucas stabilizer, I am running 50% right now in a 300,000 mile gasser right now to keep the oil in it.
seems to be doing alright, probably not the best for it, but the motor is on its last legs anyway, and I have a diesel freshly rebuilt to put into it in a month or so.
the lucas is good stuff, thickens the oil, and supposedly keeps the engine surfaces coated when the motor is shut down reducing wear on initial startup.
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#18
by
Rabbit on Roids
on 12 Dec, 2009 11:04
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dont worry about it owen, my cousin used to have an S10, and it had MANY bad rod bearings. and it had been heatsiezed many times. the last 5 or 6 oil changes were PURE Lucas oil stabilizer. it ran like that untill the day he over revved it really bad and launched 3 rods through the side of the engine.
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#19
by
OM617
on 15 Dec, 2009 03:22
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Lucas Oil Stabilizer
Pure Junk. If you use that you might as well pour gear oil in your crankcase, it would lubricate better than that molasses.
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#20
by
Rabbit on Roids
on 15 Dec, 2009 11:22
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Lucas Oil Stabilizer
Pure Junk. If you use that you might as well pour gear oil in your crankcase, it would lubricate better than that molasses.
im not saying your statement is falce, but if it is such junk, why do they sell soo many bottles of it, and what makes it so bad? personal experience or something?
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#21
by
dennis
on 15 Dec, 2009 12:07
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Lucas Oil Stabilizer
Pure Junk. If you use that you might as well pour gear oil in your crankcase, it would lubricate better than that molasses.
Pure Junk? Well maybe. Most of these products work as advertised. The proper use is to pour it in junk. My Volvo D24 benefits from the thicker products because they improve compression. I know this because I get less misfires. Runs smoother. My plan for the car is an overhauled D24T. In the mean time with the current engine it helps. To each his own though. If we could get someone to try molasses and it works I'll go for that. might be cheaper
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#22
by
truckinwagen
on 15 Dec, 2009 12:10
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I say its better than gear oil.
any car you put it in is burning oil, and will continue to do so.
a car that is burning gear oil smells like the bad and of a garbage truck, the lucas does not reek like gear oil.
worth the extra few bucks I think
-Owen
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#23
by
Rabbit on Roids
on 15 Dec, 2009 19:24
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i actually run lucas in every oil change in my toyota pickup. its the only stock V6 i have ever seen that will spin up to 8 grand and live to see another day. im not saying lucas is the sole reason behind it spinning 8,000 rpms, but im sure it helps. and my engine is not hardly worn at all. it uses less than a quart in 5000 mi.
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#24
by
8v-of-fury
on 15 Dec, 2009 22:26
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I use it liberally on each oil change and in between when it dips a tad on the dipstick.
It helps a lot with my oil burning 1.7 for sure
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#25
by
OM617
on 23 Dec, 2009 09:13
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but if it is such junk, why do they sell soo many bottles of it, and what makes it so bad?
To put it politely, there are a LOT of gullible customers out there that fall for marketing and "testimonials". Intake swirlers, fuel line magnets and "hydrogen generators" have been proven not work at all (detrimental to MPG and performance in fact), yet countless numbers of them are sold every day.
i actually run lucas in every oil change in my toyota pickup. its the only stock V6 i have ever seen that will spin up to 8 grand and live to see another day.
My grandpa has a Toyota truck with over 250,000 miles and a "custom made" wood stake bed that he uses to haul and pull pretty much everything on his 90 acres. I lost count how many times we loaded that thing to the the axle travel stops and more. Its been running strong for the last 15 years with only regular 10w40 oil changes and two clutch swaps.
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#26
by
truckinwagen
on 23 Dec, 2009 14:05
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I will say again, lucas is better than gear oil because it does not make your car smell horrible when burned.
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#27
by
rabbitman
on 23 Dec, 2009 14:27
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To put it politely, there are a LOT of gullible customers out there that fall for marketing and "testimonials". Intake swirlers, fuel line magnets and "hydrogen generators" have been proven not work at all (detrimental to MPG and performance in fact), yet countless numbers of them are sold every day.
This is not an intake swirler, magnet or hydro generator, it is simply thicker oil.
I use it and I do get slightly higher oil pressure.
I might have been gullible and fell for it the first time, but then I found that it helps so I use it and it's not called gullible anymore........you've made your point.
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#28
by
theman53
on 23 Dec, 2009 23:10
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Oh My 617 reasons for an ignore button...to put it politely, could you wash the sand out of your labia? It seems you might be trying to help, but come across as abrasive in most every post. Please help me understand your method as I don't get it and am in no way the most polite person either. I bet you have lots to offer...
In all seriousness some people use Lucas and engine restore and it helps. They are additives and unless you are running crude oil, according to your sig line your using Mobil 1, all of todays oils are refined and have an additive package. Not all oils have the same additive package and even if they do not all have the same proportions. The Lucas and similar products are just another additive that may or may not help a certain car's performance, it all depends on what that car needs/wants from its oil.
Gear oil is too thick for most cars crankcase. In gasoline cars people have twisted dizzy gears and tweaked oil pump driveshafts running it in high concentrations similar to the Lucas product. In my opinion that would make the Lucas better than 90w and molassas.
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#29
by
OM617
on 26 Dec, 2009 09:38
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This is not an intake swirler, magnet or hydro generator, it is simply thicker oil.
Then use thicker oil.
I use it and I do get slightly higher oil pressure.
Was there an issue in the first place?
Please help me understand your method as I don't get it and am in no way the most polite person either.
Reality isn't nice. I get right to the point without fluffy, happy, imagination-land screwing around bullspit padding.
The Lucas and similar products are just another additive that may or may not help a certain car's performance
Except, the additives used in your engine oil are designed to work with that specific oil. Lucas is like Microsoft's Windows; they must attempt to work with every brand, viscosity range and type of oil on the market as well as every engine model and operating condition with one single offering (Sounds exactly like the advertisements for those fuel line magnets and "hydrogen generators to me!). What you end up with is something that works, but not very well. That results in things like this:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm"Ah, but engines don't have gears like that test!"
You have oil squirting out of every orifice inside the engine. Bearings, valve lifters, piston jets, blowby and the crankshaft whipping around. All of which vaporize oil and whip up with air. Its the reason the CCV system needs an oil separator. Engine oil has additives specifically to prevent foaming, but as shown in the link above, Lucas can conflict with the oil's additives and counteract some very important features. Foaming is only something we can see, many other things like shear resistance and soot load capacity can be affected as well.