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October 14, 2009, 12:31:29 pm
txag09
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Ok guys I know I am new this forum and am hoping to get somewhat the same kind of help as I do on other forums for my truck. Here's what happened. I was driving the car down the interstate at about 65mph then out of no where the car just starts to slow down all the way to a complete stop and dies. I tried to start it back up but it wouldn't even crank. Got it towed back to the house and the next morning I tried to start and it would crank, crank, and crank but wouldn't start up. You guys got any idea's? I was thinking maybe a clogged fuel filter or maybe the fuel pump went out. I really need some help guys.
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October 14, 2009, 01:28:11 pm
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That's the exact symtom of an empty fuel tank.....
or possibly a clogged fuel filter or busted fuel line.
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October 14, 2009, 02:56:18 pm
Baron VonZeppelin
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October 14, 2009, 02:56:18 pm »
In addition, 'possibly' the fuel solenoid valve - or its electrical feed - went bad.
With a helper - turn the key on and off a few times - while they stand at engine to listen and "feel" for the solenoid to click (with hand on it).
It also should be getting voltage with a test light anytime the key is on. If getting voltage - but no click - the solenoid is bad.
The solenoid is located on top of Inj Pump - at end nearest tranny. Has a wire going to it.
It is what turns your engine off when you turn the key off.
When it fails or loses voltage energization - you won't get pressurized fuel from the Inj Pump. And engine will not run.
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October 14, 2009, 02:58:53 pm
Baron VonZeppelin
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October 14, 2009, 02:58:53 pm »
Also, its sometimes relevant to state what kind of vehicle and engine you are dealing with.
Just taking for granted this is a VW Truck with a 1.5 or 1.6 VW Diesel engine.
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October 14, 2009, 08:52:49 pm
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October 14, 2009, 08:52:49 pm »
Ok well its for the only vehicle in my sig.
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October 14, 2009, 09:28:54 pm
Baron VonZeppelin
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October 14, 2009, 09:28:54 pm »
Just another reason it becomes relevant to state it.
Most savvy users have their user options set so all that malarky and clutter is left out of the page.
Good luck with the only vehicle in your signature,
Mr Einstein
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October 14, 2009, 10:04:27 pm
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October 14, 2009, 10:04:27 pm »
Well I don't see the point of putting vehicles in the sig. that don't have anything to do with the forum, whatever though. Thanks for your help I will give it a try tomorrow if I can find the time. Oh and the other vehicle I could add is a 07 dodge 6.7 Cummins 3500 pushing 575hp at the wheels.
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October 14, 2009, 10:42:47 pm
Baron VonZeppelin
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October 14, 2009, 10:42:47 pm »
No probo man.
The point was, it wouldn't matter what was in your signature or anyone elses signature - most of us would never see it.
If we did take that view, we wouldn't need to ask to begin with more than likely.
If your email address is in your signature, and someone asks for your email - a sharper mind realizes they don't view sigs in posts.
So taking the time to post "the only vehicle in my signature" was meaningless compared to "83 VW Truck with 1.9TD". Which would have been less text and more informative. Just for example.
Not bashing you here or anything, just trying to educate you on fuel solenoids, forum settings, signatures, and proper/respectful replies.
And indeed i still wish you good luck on an easy fix with the only vehicle in your signature.
BVZ
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October 15, 2009, 09:47:09 pm
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October 15, 2009, 09:47:09 pm »
Its official the car has a dead injection pump. The stealership wants around $1600 for a new pump.
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October 15, 2009, 10:20:56 pm
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October 15, 2009, 10:20:56 pm »
youch I think you may have to go the Giles route if you cannot find a used working pump in good shape.
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October 16, 2009, 01:15:55 am
Baron VonZeppelin
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October 16, 2009, 01:15:55 am »
Not trying to be argumentive or pessimistic, but i wouldn't trust that diagnosis or that source. They don't make their livings on small jobs, small jobs turn into big jobs at any chance given.
Everyone at a dealership is on commission pay except the cashier, phone receptionist, and floor sweeper. I've worked at 3 diffrnt ones.
Its just that so far, i've never heard of a good or proper running VW Diesel NA turn into a completely non-running vehicle instantaneously - because the Inj Pump itself went dead in an instant.
A guy on VwVtex Diesel just beat an $1800 dead pump diagnosis with our help.
Cost him $100 and most of that was in tools and supplies.
But of course, i do all my own wrenches. And not everyone has that burden, or so-called ability.
But i realize too, some folks have no time or desire to do the wrench or the diagnostics.
If you want to get the Truck back and do the diagnostics we will help and walk you through it. Even if the pump actually needs replacing/rebuilding - you will save $500-$800 doing it yourself. And have a better Inj Pump from the best builder known to man. Versus even a brand new box fresh Bosch pump.
Giles in Ontario Canada.
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October 16, 2009, 01:14:23 pm
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October 16, 2009, 01:14:23 pm »
Ok well I am just going to get the car back to the shop and try to fix it myself. What would be the best way to diagnose they problem to verify that the injection pump is actually dead? Oh and this is for a 2000 jetta 1.9TDI with 274,000 miles all stock.
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October 16, 2009, 05:55:46 pm
Baron VonZeppelin
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This has just gotten hilarious. rotflmao damn
I can barely spell TDi, have never touched one either.
Or even ridden in one.
Wouldn't know what to tell you, and would have never posted on this thread if had any idea it was TDi. They are another animal with everything computer controlled.
Just not my flavor.
Maybe the dealership is your best bet after all.
They know how to skillfully communicate with folks about the only vehicle in their signature.
Otherwise you should probably start another thread with 2000 TDi in the topic line to draw the right crowd. I don't think this thread is going to bring you the assistance you seek. fwiw
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October 16, 2009, 07:03:37 pm
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October 16, 2009, 07:03:37 pm »
Goofy thread, but I learned something - I didn't know that you could "supress" signatures. Always assumed that everyone sees them... Good to know!
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pumped by Giles...powered by Frybrid...functional by dumb luck
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October 17, 2009, 01:34:17 pm
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October 17, 2009, 01:34:17 pm »
VonZeppelin, TDi's aren't that scary lol he can still do the whole pump thing he just has a few extra steps we idi guys don't have.
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