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Reply #180December 13, 2009, 07:29:28 pm

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Re: more supercharger talk
« Reply #180 on: December 13, 2009, 07:29:28 pm »
Good luck, man.

Reply #181December 14, 2009, 04:50:46 pm

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« Reply #181 on: December 14, 2009, 04:50:46 pm »
What I do is put the engine in 4th gear and jack up the drivers side wheel. Then I just rotate the wheel while looking at the pointer.

i missed this part of the thread, i stick mine in 3rd (i have a 4 speed) and then just push the car forward and back to set it where ever
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Reply #182December 15, 2009, 04:32:50 pm

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« Reply #182 on: December 15, 2009, 04:32:50 pm »
well, the swap is scheduled for the second of january, so I will post updates with lots of pics after then.
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Reply #183December 30, 2009, 05:07:01 pm

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« Reply #183 on: December 30, 2009, 05:07:01 pm »
well, I have the motor in my car, and will be installing it this weekend.

I have a question, I have a line on a Holset H1C (almost exactly the same as a HY35) in reasonable condition, might need a rebuild, but rebuild kits can be found for $50 so I am not worried about that.

I have been looking at turbo maps and my brain is starting to hurt, anyone have any idea if it would be a good fit blowing into the G60?

I plan to have the G60 generating 15 pounds of boost, and would like to push 15-20 PSI into it.

I think it would be a good fit flow wise, but I cant quite work out if it will be too big or not.

thanks,
-Owen
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Reply #184December 30, 2009, 05:32:14 pm

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Re: more supercharger talk
« Reply #184 on: December 30, 2009, 05:32:14 pm »
well, I have the motor in my car, and will be installing it this weekend.

I have a question, I have a line on a Holset H1C (almost exactly the same as a HY35) in reasonable condition, might need a rebuild, but rebuild kits can be found for $50 so I am not worried about that.

I have been looking at turbo maps and my brain is starting to hurt, anyone have any idea if it would be a good fit blowing into the G60?

I plan to have the G60 generating 15 pounds of boost, and would like to push 15-20 PSI into it.

I think it would be a good fit flow wise, but I cant quite work out if it will be too big or not.

thanks,
-Owen

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Reply #185December 30, 2009, 06:20:35 pm

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« Reply #185 on: December 30, 2009, 06:20:35 pm »
thats sorta the idea, but I am tinkering with ideas to bypass the G60 once the turbo spools, so there would not be that much more boost, but less power lost to the supercharger, and the big turbo would spool faster with the supercharger helping on the low end.
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Reply #186December 30, 2009, 06:29:23 pm

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« Reply #186 on: December 30, 2009, 06:29:23 pm »
there is also a K26 I could get, which might be a better match size wise, but the rebuild kit is more expensive.
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Reply #187January 03, 2010, 04:46:30 pm

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« Reply #187 on: January 03, 2010, 04:46:30 pm »
swap is finished, worked on the car for 22 hours straight.

it wont start, feels like it is trying, but wont catch and run, even towed the car in gear for a mile or so, and no good.

I am thinking that it is a timing related issue, exacerbated by working the air out of the pump.

I tried to pull the timing plug off the injection pump to confirm timing, but it is stuck in the larger round bit on the end of the pump which wants to un-thread instead.
is removing the larger plug from the end of the pump an issue? will it screw anything up if I unthread it to put it in a vise to get enough purchase to remove the timing plug, and then replace the larger threaded plug onto the pump?

motor is soooo close to running, but wont, is there anything other than timing that could be keeping it from starting? glow plugs are good, I loosened the injector lines at the injectors and there is fuel  there, so the pump seems to be priming, even though when you stop cranking air bubbles come back out the feed line.

any tips from the masters? this is the third motor I have started fresh, and the other two just fired up after ten or so minutes of cranking, this one, not so much.

thanks in advance for the help!

-Owen
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Reply #188January 03, 2010, 04:58:25 pm

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« Reply #188 on: January 03, 2010, 04:58:25 pm »
There was some talk about the problem you have with air bubbles coming out the feed line a day or so ago. I think it was the pump shaft seal leaking. Blow some compressed air at the seal and see if more air comes out? Good luck. Can't wait to hear and see some video of it running.
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Reply #189January 03, 2010, 07:11:25 pm

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« Reply #189 on: January 03, 2010, 07:11:25 pm »
Come on, little rabbit!

Reply #190January 03, 2010, 08:22:52 pm

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« Reply #190 on: January 03, 2010, 08:22:52 pm »
I think realistically the air is just left from the pump being empty when it was installed, and it has not worked out yet, it works back into the feed line because it is the highest point in the system.

I think once it primes it will be fine, as this is the pump that did fine on my last motor.

I really think at this point that it is a timing issue, and my real question is wether or not removing the large threaded plug on the end of the pump head that the timing plug threads into would be an issue.

-Owen
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Reply #191January 03, 2010, 08:53:07 pm

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« Reply #191 on: January 03, 2010, 08:53:07 pm »
did u try rotating the pump a bit just to see if it would start at all?  i wanna see pics of it in, this ***s cool,  cant wait till it runs
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Reply #192January 03, 2010, 09:01:47 pm

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« Reply #192 on: January 03, 2010, 09:01:47 pm »
its good to hear that the large plug can be removed, and I dont have to worry about getting the small plug out by itself.

I did advance the timing by rotating the pump back a bit, with no luck. but I dint know what it was at before, so it could still be really retarded.

anyone have any tips about how to do an initial pump prime faster? I have a lift pump, but it does not seem to efficiently work all the bubbles out of the pump.

-Owen
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Reply #193January 04, 2010, 07:14:09 am

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« Reply #193 on: January 04, 2010, 07:14:09 am »
my lift pump will completely prime my pump. i just let it pump till i can hear fuel running out of the return line from the ip.

Reply #194January 04, 2010, 09:59:59 am

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« Reply #194 on: January 04, 2010, 09:59:59 am »
If that "big plug" is loose the pump won't be able to build enough high pressure to fire the injectors properly.
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