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September 22, 2009, 10:49:33 am

bobmaf

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aaz into mk1 caddy
« on: September 22, 2009, 10:49:33 am »
will the aaz engine 1.9td from a mk3 fit into a mk1 caddy pickup ????
1991 mk2 1.6GTD tuned
1995 mk3 1.9TD Part Tuned(aaz)

Reply #1September 22, 2009, 02:01:34 pm

Baron VonZeppelin

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Re: aaz into mk1 caddy
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2009, 02:01:34 pm »
Its supposed to be drop in deal on mk2. (not your answer or question .... but getting there)

Mk2 engine is basically drop in deal on Mk1 ... other than Inj pump bracket swap.

So I hope its a sweet exchange to put AAZ into Mk1 Truck.
I'm pondering the same upgrade.

The Inj Pump bracket/engine mount for Mk1 is only thing that i'm thinking might could complicate it - along with if Mk1 accessories and brackets will bolt up onto 1.9 the same.

I'm interested in same info / swap as you.

Reply #2September 22, 2009, 02:30:47 pm

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Re: aaz into mk1 caddy
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2009, 02:30:47 pm »
if i find anything else out al be in touch
1991 mk2 1.6GTD tuned
1995 mk3 1.9TD Part Tuned(aaz)

Reply #3September 23, 2009, 12:45:25 am

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Re: aaz into mk1 caddy
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2009, 12:45:25 am »
some info, although I don't like the engine bracket mod better to do it properly with a MK1 bracket

http://www.vwcaddy.com/showthread.php?t=16362

Reply #4September 23, 2009, 01:31:50 am

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Re: aaz into mk1 caddy
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2009, 01:31:50 am »
I just finished the exact swap... well not exactly, it was dropped into a rabbit but the caddy has the same engine mount setup. I used the passenger side mount of a gas mk1, i too didnt want to cut the other bracket up. If you plan to use the AAZ timing belt cover you will need to cut a small section out of it (i can get pics of how the mount looks and how much to trim for the belt cover)

Reply #5September 23, 2009, 03:30:11 am

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Re: aaz into mk1 caddy
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2009, 03:30:11 am »
Here's mine in my 1981 Caddy. It fits very nicely.


Reply #6September 23, 2009, 02:56:34 pm

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Re: aaz into mk1 caddy
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2009, 02:56:34 pm »
thats a nice setup

if u can please do take a pic of the timing belt cover mod for me thanks
1991 mk2 1.6GTD tuned
1995 mk3 1.9TD Part Tuned(aaz)

Reply #7September 23, 2009, 04:58:35 pm

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Re: aaz into mk1 caddy
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2009, 04:58:35 pm »
thats a nice setup

if u can please do take a pic of the timing belt cover mod for me thanks

Sorry, but you can't see it from the top.

Reply #8September 23, 2009, 06:03:54 pm

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Re: aaz into mk1 caddy
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2009, 06:03:54 pm »
sorry about that i meant for sawedoffgolf to send me the pics

but yeh it looks nice your setup
1991 mk2 1.6GTD tuned
1995 mk3 1.9TD Part Tuned(aaz)

Reply #9September 23, 2009, 09:55:32 pm

Baron VonZeppelin

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Re: aaz into mk1 caddy
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2009, 09:55:32 pm »
Here's mine in my 1981 Caddy. It fits very nicely.

Stewardc,

I would say you look real good under the hood ... but it would be such an understatement.

DAMMM MAN you went to the lengths ! Kill Dog Kill

I'm going to do my 81 about 1 or 2 notches under that level.
Highly presentable with some attention to detail.

Do you have a build thread on this Truck ?

Mine is heavy and will be hauling additional weights on top of that from time to time - i want max full GRuNT that can be had from a VW 4cyl IDI Dzl. So i'm thinking maybe to go 1.9 instead of 1.6

I was told today that there are 2 diffrnt versions of 1.9TD.
The Inj Pump Mount - one is larger than 1.6, and one is same as 1.6
The larger one (68mm) is said to be more hassle to deal with.
I have no further knowledge beyond that.




Reply #10September 24, 2009, 03:38:49 am

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Re: aaz into mk1 caddy
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2009, 03:38:49 am »
The 1.9 is definitely the way to go. Mine is from a 1996 Passat wagon, and you should go with as late an engine as you can. The difference is in the bottom end...later is stronger.
I've never heard about the mount issue.
Go with a Giles pump for sure....the guy is a genious. Also, the Garrett T3 spools slower than the stock turbo, but makes more ponies when needed.
I really couldn't be happier. I'm presently doing a powdercoated oil pan, and a new turbo oil return into the block (presently using a 1.6TD pan with return there.). I'm also refinishing an oldskool Neuspeed strutbar to match the Scirocco K brace presently installed.
Do these projects ever end?
Here's a few pics of my old 1.6TD setup.


Reply #11September 24, 2009, 05:58:56 am

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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2009, 05:58:56 am »
the aaz ive got is going to come out of my mk3 golf its a 1994 i think with the kkk turbo and a 1.6GTD pin
1991 mk2 1.6GTD tuned
1995 mk3 1.9TD Part Tuned(aaz)

Reply #12September 24, 2009, 12:05:23 pm

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Re: aaz into mk1 caddy
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2009, 12:05:23 pm »
Wow stewardc, I don't know how I missed really noticing your caddy before. I think that's the nicest IDI I've ever seen! Could you explain a bit about the oil drain directly to block?
2006 Jetta TDI - gtb1749v, Malone 2, Frank's Titan 2 cam, VR6 clutch....
1991 Jetta TD - sold :(
2001 Golf TDI - Son's
1981 Rabbit - BEW tdi swap project

"ONCE YOU GO CLACK, YOU NEVER GO BACK"

Reply #13September 24, 2009, 12:40:15 pm

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Re: aaz into mk1 caddy
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2009, 12:40:15 pm »
A 1.6 drains into the pan through a welded-in bung while the 1.9 has a fitting in the lower part of the block. For ease, we just reused the ond 1.6 pan and drain, but I now have enough fittings to put a stainless braided AN hose onto the turbo drain and connect it into the block.




 I also have this nice new 1.9 pan all powdercoated and ready;



At that time, I'll also revamp the engine breather system;




Reply #14September 24, 2009, 12:55:26 pm

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Re: aaz into mk1 caddy
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2009, 12:55:26 pm »
So the 1.6 pan fits on the AAZ block as well?
2006 Jetta TDI - gtb1749v, Malone 2, Frank's Titan 2 cam, VR6 clutch....
1991 Jetta TD - sold :(
2001 Golf TDI - Son's
1981 Rabbit - BEW tdi swap project

"ONCE YOU GO CLACK, YOU NEVER GO BACK"