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September 17, 2009, 04:08:19 pm

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« on: September 17, 2009, 04:08:19 pm »
anyone seen a supercharged mk1/2? How feasible is that? I had a supercharged mercury and that thing was GREAT. I'm new to the diesel scene but I'm interested otherwise I wouldn't be here

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Reply #1September 17, 2009, 04:12:28 pm

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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2009, 04:12:28 pm »
I am working on a G60 supercharged 1.6 and possibly twincharge(turbo blowing into the G60)

time and money are my biggest roadblocks.
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Reply #2September 17, 2009, 04:17:21 pm

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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2009, 04:17:21 pm »
I thought G60 superchargers were made of unobtainum and more expensive than two diesel VW's. I would love to see one compounded with a turbo though sounds like a fun project.
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Reply #3September 17, 2009, 04:26:15 pm

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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2009, 04:26:15 pm »
in the states the G60 can be had for pretty cheap(I got mine for $150 shipped) because most people are too afraid of running them.

in reality if you service them regularly(every 30-40 thousand miles) they are great chargers, very efficient and quiet.

getting them professionally serviced is expensive, but they are really simple and can be rebuild yourself in a day or two with minimal special tools(a heat gun is needed to get the bearings out)
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Reply #4September 17, 2009, 04:26:55 pm

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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2009, 04:26:55 pm »
a small roots charger would be supercool. I've never really played with a G lader, but if they are that cheap, maybe they could be the sleeper add on of the year.
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Reply #5September 17, 2009, 04:30:30 pm

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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2009, 04:30:30 pm »
any G60 you get should be rebuilt immediately, the rebuild parts cost about $350
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Reply #6September 17, 2009, 04:42:19 pm

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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2009, 04:42:19 pm »
any G60 you get should be rebuilt immediately, the rebuild parts cost about $350

Thats pretty cheap for a supercharger. A paxton 670 is around 800 for the parts.
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Reply #7September 17, 2009, 05:12:19 pm

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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2009, 05:12:19 pm »
true, but remember you will be spending that much (or close to it) every 40 thousand miles or so.

most people forget this, the supercharger explodes(and I do mean explode!) and then they will tell everyone the know to never touch a motor with a G60 on it.
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Reply #8September 17, 2009, 08:19:05 pm

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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2009, 08:19:05 pm »
there was a guy on here with a twin charged aaz or something had some crazy like 250hp.  its rare people show cars like that here tho, i know the last 250hp aaz who had a dyno video and was looking for more power, he came on here and got flamed
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Reply #9September 17, 2009, 08:58:58 pm

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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2009, 08:58:58 pm »
a small roots charger would be supercool. I've never really played with a G lader, but if they are that cheap, maybe they could be the sleeper add on of the year.

Rootes blowers? Ewwwwww, efficiency fail!  :(

Lysholm or scroll superchargers. Just remember the aforementioned regular maintenance...

Reply #10September 18, 2009, 09:43:27 am

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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2009, 09:43:27 am »
there was a guy on here with a twin charged aaz or something had some crazy like 250hp.  its rare people show cars like that here tho, i know the last 250hp aaz who had a dyno video and was looking for more power, he came on here and got flamed

theres no way he was making "around 300 horsepower" from a 1.9AAZ of course we flamed him, he was full of s***.

and just remember, the crank noses and sprockets on these engines wouldnt be too happy driving a S/C. they take quite a bit of power to turn, and the crank nose/sprocket just wasnt made to drive something this big.
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Reply #11September 18, 2009, 09:55:52 am

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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2009, 09:55:52 am »
I am going to combat the crank nose issues by using an early style crank with the woodruff key nose.

argue what you will, but a woodruff key is much stronger than the crap VW decided to replace it with.
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Reply #12September 18, 2009, 01:33:17 pm

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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2009, 01:33:17 pm »
I am going to combat the crank nose issues by using an early style crank with the woodruff key nose.

argue what you will, but a woodruff key is much stronger than the crap VW decided to replace it with.

A woodruff key is stronger than a machined flat spot on the shaft and a press-fit sprocket to match?

Reply #13September 18, 2009, 02:41:01 pm

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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2009, 02:41:01 pm »
sure it is stronger than the nub and close fitting dimple that vw decided to use on later diesels.

woodruff keys can hold lots of power, which is why they are the standard for putting a pulley on a shaft in industry.
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Reply #14September 18, 2009, 02:55:57 pm

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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2009, 02:55:57 pm »
sure it is stronger than the nub and close fitting dimple that vw decided to use on later diesels.

woodruff keys can hold lots of power, which is why they are the standard for putting a pulley on a shaft in industry.


You referring to the design on the 1.6 and 1.9 IDI diesels? Sorry, I'm not quite up on my technical terms for shaft joints, but it would seem that the machined and fitted shaft and sprocket that is used on the TDIs would be stronger than a slender bit of metal protruding from a round shaft.

Just making sure we're on the right page, ya know?